screening

Title:
screening

Area:
entries

Summary:
take you back to the post after commenting in a screened post

Description:
when a post is being screened, if you comment in it currently, after posting it takes you to a page that says "successfully posted!". to get back to the post you have to hit the back button twice.

this is real obnoxious in large communities when you want to reply to several different comments and there is constant activity

it would be great if it would just take you back to the post automatically, or have a button on the successfully posted page that returns you to the post (and the page you were on)

thank you!

Poll #11023 screening
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 50


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Should be implemented as-is.
24 (48.0%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
12 (24.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
1 (2.0%)

(I have no opinion)
13 (26.0%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

zellieh: kitten looking shocked, openmouthed, text: WTF? (What the fuck?) (Default)
[personal profile] zellieh2012-05-30 03:04 pm

After commenting, return to previous comment-thread settings in entry

Title:
After commenting, return to previous comment-thread settings in entry

Area:
comments, entries

Summary:
After I leave a comment, I am returned to an entry page set to the default Threaded view for comments. I'd like it if the commenting process could magically remember if I was viewing the entry with all comments Expanded or in Flat view before I commented, and return me to the entry page set to whatever setting I'd picked.

Description:
So, Fandom_Secrets came to DW (Yay!), and I noticed a minor irritation I've had on DW before:

When I 'Expand All' (or 'Flat') comments on a post with lots of comments, then reply to one of those comments, after I hit 'Post', my comment appears on an entry page that's been set back to the default Threaded comments setting, with some comments hidden again.

Which means I have to go back and hit 'Expand All' (or 'Flat') again before I can continue reading and commenting. This disrupts my chain of thought, and in a big post where I'd like to comment to a lot of conversations and sub-discussions, it can get annoying after a while.

If the comment page could magically notice & remember to return me to the entry page/comment thread set-up I'd picked, that would save me several seconds that I could use to invent cheap, workable cold fusion and/or waste on watching Youtube kitten videos. More seriously, it could help some people with accessibility issues navigate pages more easily.

How could this be done? Well, elves would have to use some elven magic, obviously. Very magical creatures, elves. ::nods seriously::

Potential problems with page load, server load, etc? Ask the elves. I'm not really an expert on magic, elven or otherwise. I'd be willing to offer chocolate biscuits and milk, if that helps, but I think that might be for brownies...

Poll #11019 After commenting, return to previous comment-thread settings in entry
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 56


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Should be implemented as-is.
48 (85.7%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
8 (14.3%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

[personal profile] septim2012-05-19 05:22 pm

Allow users to pick with type of CAPTCHA test they see

Title:
Allow users to pick with type of CAPTCHA test they see

Area:
comments, entries

Summary:
Allowing users to choose which type of CAPTCHA (text-based or graphic based) they will see/take through Manage Account.

Description:
Users choosing what type of CAPTCHA they will see/take allows greater accessibility.

I have dyscalculia and the text-based CAPTCHAs are full of arithmetic problems, thus I keep failing them. As of now, there's no way to choose which CAPTCHAs you will take, only what type of CAPTCHAs others will see in your journal.

Poll #10625 Allow users to pick with type of CAPTCHA test they see
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 78


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Should be implemented as-is.
56 (71.8%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
1 (1.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (3.8%)

(I have no opinion)
17 (21.8%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.3%)

Demi-ban: screen all future comments from specific user

Title:
Demi-ban: screen all future comments from specific user

Area:
comments, comment screening

Summary:
Force-screen comments from one particular user, when it's just that user whose comments warrant screening.

Description:
Occasionally there is a user who may be commenting in a particular journal or community in such a way that they do not quite warrant a ban, but fully warrant review from the admins/owner just to make sure their comments are productive.

Everybody else is commenting all right, it's just that one person.

Setting [class that includes commenter] to have their comments screened (whether that class be everyone, non-Access/Members, or anonymous) would be overkill for this situation, because they haven't brought along friends, it's just them. Turning on screened comments tends to dampen discussion and can be a lot of work to unscreen.

A demi-ban which makes all that user's future comments screened, but leaves everybody else's alone, would solve this problem on a technical level.

On a social level, this person could then use another account to evade the demi-ban and not be subject to screening. That's something that is likely to be noticed, and then the admins/owner would have to decide how to handle it. (The admins/owner may well decide that it's time to actually ban both accounts.)

Evading a demi-ban should not be a ToS-able offense. Evading an actual ban still should be.

Poll #10464 Demi-ban: screen all future comments from specific user
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 84


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Should be implemented as-is.
67 (79.8%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
7 (8.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
10 (11.9%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

tim: Tim with short hair, smiling, wearing a black jacket over a white T-shirt (Default)
[personal profile] tim2012-05-13 10:56 pm

Include subscribers in "screen comments from people not on your access list"

Title:
Include subscribers in "screen comments from people not on your access list"

Area:
comments

Summary:
Right now the options for comment screening are "never", "anonymous comments", "people not on your access list", or "always". I want to change "people not on your access list" to "people on neither your access list nor your subscriber list".

Description:
I'm not sure how other people use automatic screening, but I use it to discourage abusive / derailing comments. If someone is on *either* my access list or my subscriber list, I probably trust them not to make such comments. So I suggest, in the "Comment screening" menu in "My Account Settings", changing the "people not on your access list" option to also exempt people on your subscriber list from auto-screening.

An alternative suggestion is to just add one more option to the list: "people not on your access list or your subscriber list", and leave the other options as-is. I prefer the first solution for simplicity, but either way is OK.

I don't see any drawbacks to the latter option except that adding more options to the list makes that part of the account settings harder to understand. The drawback to the former option is that someone might want to auto-screen comments from people they subscribe to but who they don't trust enough to grant access to. However I don't know if anyone actually does want to or not.

Edit: Since this is apparently unclear, "your subscriber list" means the people you choose to subscribe to. You choose who to subscribe to. Everybody on your subscriber list is someone you chose to subscribe to and can unsubscribe from.

Poll #10451 Include subscribers in "screen comments from people not on your access list"
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 57


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Should be implemented as-is.
10 (17.5%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
3 (5.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
30 (52.6%)

(I have no opinion)
11 (19.3%)

(Other: please comment)
3 (5.3%)

Recent Comments Page - Sort by Location

Title:
Recent Comments Page - Sort by Location

Area:
Tools - Recent Comments

Summary:
To have the ability to sort your recent comments section by location, instead of the default of by time. This way, if you have multiple comments to one post, you can easily see which ones have been replied to within one post.

Description:
My suggestion is mainly for ease of keeping track of comments that are posted outside of your own journal. The recent_comments section has Latest Posted and Premium members can view up to 150 of those comments. It's an amazing tool that has helped a lot of RPers keep track of things when notifs are down or when we are unable to access our email.

In the Roleplaying community this page has been a Godsend when we lose a notification due to accidental deletion or something being marked spam.

The only drawback to it, right now, is that because it is by default sorted by the time that you posted a comment. This means when you are dealing with multiple threads, you might have to dig through an entire list of 150 comments to make sure that you have found all of the replied to comments in one post.

Being able to sort these comments by location means that they are all grouped by location, then by time, and it will be easier to spot which ones need to be replied to. Now, I don't know very much about the back-end of this tool. I know that it was a feature that was on Livejournal and that it operated very much the same way on LJ that it does on DW. There are already improvements on DW from the LJ version, because we can easily see which have been replied to, we also have a link to delete the comment or edit it. I love these things and I just want a bit more organization to the section.

Another option that would be amazing would be if it could be sorted by actual tagging thread. There are instances, again with multiple threads occur within a single post, and being able to sort them into their individual threads would be a great thing to utilize when dealing with replying to each thread.

Currently they are sorted by time. If you made the top bar where each section is labeled "Time", "Location", "Delete", and "Edit" actually clickable for sorting that would be ideal. Being able to sort by Location of Post or Subthread with a click of a link would be amazing.

Poll #10447 Recent Comments Page - Sort by Location
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 57


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Should be implemented as-is.
31 (54.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
26 (45.6%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Thread Logging (or "Dreamwidth Journal History")

Title:
Thread Logging (or "Dreamwidth Journal History")

Area:
Threads / notifications

Summary:
It can be hard to track down all the posts you've made or threads you've started or replied to -- even with tags, commenting in your journal, other people's journals, communities, etc, can make it hard to have any kind of record of your own experiences on the site. If the site can record every one of your posts/top level comments (or the top-level comment you replied to) and report it (somewhere on your console, or into a specific entry in your journal) it will be much easier for people to reread their old posts/threads and track their life on DW.

Description:
Right now it's difficult to find everywhere you've posted or commented to and thus track your 'life' on this site. Basically, if someone wishes to do "thread logging", it all needs to be done manually -- you can track threads which sort of does it a little, but that again is a manual task. There's no automatic record, no recorded history, of where you've commented and what you've said.

Especially as the roleplay community gets larger this is something I feel will be more in demand (as rpers frequently like to reread the character development they go through, but sometimes this can be months or years of posts to wade through -- with an RP like CFUD, you've got six years of roleplay! Or, even if they're not fans of rereading, a lot of sites request you turn in your activity every month, which involves wading back through posts trying to find it, using tags liberally to help yourself keep track (but again, tags are added manually, which means human error). Thread-logging is standard but usually involves manual work.

Perhaps there can be an option on the site which outputs (into a console box or an entry that you set up and somehow mark as a "history" entry) the links for your comments/posts. Obviously doing every comment would be frustrating, so I'm thinking:
A) Any post you make, the post link would go in here.
B) If you make a comment, the History console identifies the top level comment in that thread (whether you started the thread or replied to it) and links it, discarding anything after. (Obviously in the case of B it would also check if it has already linked this thread and not link again if so).

Additional thoughts, details, and concerns:

- It would need to be arranged by date somehow, whether just a chronological order (top-down) or with datestamps of the toplevel comment beside them.

- Since what's just a list of links could become unwieldy fast it would be good for the user to either be able to convert into linktext instead of a plain URL, or at least have a field where the user could add a comment beside the link to identify the content if they choose to (ex: (LINK) - "Umeda and Akiha have a picnic. Mood crab sings them a song.")

- Having a list of the number of your total comments in the thread/post would probably be super useful to RPers (obviously this would mean that either it would have to dynamically update with each reply like the comment section in your profile OR the user could manually run to check for all updates you've made with that username).

- If this WAS going to be planned anyway, obviously the fact that people imported journals would make it difficult to have a 'full' list of their journal's history, unless there were a way to run the function to comb back through all appearances of the relevant username on DW (using their ID) and do a link dump. (This would be ideal for me, as a CFUDer who really wants to reread old threads). Since DW has such a strong search function I think this would theoretically be possible using something similar to the search functionality using the journalname ID, but I'm no programmer.

- Privacy issues -- if in a console you need to be logged into to see this isn't a concern, but if not, whatever journal entry this output into might need to be private by default (with the user able to make it public if they chose to?) in case you didn't want the whole world to see what that journal had been up to.

- This obviously wouldn't track anonymous comments, so if users can manually add extra threads (as in an editable entry) for any 'anon posts' they participate in, or if they did a 'bodyswap' with journals or so on, they could help keep track of these extra things as well. Not totally necessary as long as the journal name's history is added but it'd be a nice bonus for completion's sake.

- If this is impossible to do on the site itself, are there any programmers on the suggestions team or reading this otherwise who may be able to draw up an associated client that could run a similar function of outputting posts/the top comment of threads with a journal name? It's currently difficult to get full thread logs without having to manually keep track of things yourself, which is doubly difficult if you have multiple computers you thread from, if your game doesn't use tags, etc.

Poll #9801 Thread Logging (or "Dreamwidth Journal History")
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 58


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Should be implemented as-is.
12 (20.7%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
5 (8.6%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
18 (31.0%)

(I have no opinion)
21 (36.2%)

(Other: please comment)
2 (3.4%)

magibrain: A radiation symbol. It appears to be a little bit on fire. (Default)
[personal profile] magibrain2011-12-29 03:54 pm

Spoiler DW-tag

Title:
Spoiler DW-tag

Area:
DW custom tags

Summary:
Add a tag to easily add spoilertext to a post.

Description:
I suggest a [spoiler][/spoiler] tag which would automatically generate spoilertext (often black text on a black background, so that a user can choose to highlight it to read it), with a hidden-from-screen-display but screen-reader-accessible (possibly using WebAIM's hidden content trick - http://webaim.org/techniques/css/invisiblecontent/ ) link to skip the spoilered content. The rough format I've been using in my posts is this (brackets flattened because preview didn't like < and > codes):

[a href="#skip_spoiler_1" style="width:1px; height:1px; position:absolute; left:-10000px;"]skip spoiler[/a][span style="color:#000; background-color:#000;"]SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS[/blockquote][a name="skip_spoiler_1" /]

It seems that the following code:

[spoiler]SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS[/spoiler]

would be much cleaner, and guarantee accessibility for people using spoilertext who might not otherwise consider screenreaders.

As for drawbacks... I'm not sure how many people actually use spoilertext on a regular basis, I don't know if color choice would be controversial, I'm not entirely happy with the disparallel between functionality for sighted and screenreader-using folk (where people reading visually have to take action to see the spoilered content, but people using a screenreader have to take action to *avoid* being spoilered), the outputted HTML is still a little bloated, the trick to not display the skip link is a kludge (because screenreaders have erratic handling of both visibility:hidden and display:none), and I imagine it would get extremely ugly if used on a large patch of text. But it'd be cool to hear discussion on any/all points. :)

Poll #9002 Spoiler DW-tag
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 101


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Should be implemented as-is.
46 (45.5%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
22 (21.8%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
10 (9.9%)

(I have no opinion)
22 (21.8%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.0%)

sara: S (Default)
[personal profile] sara2011-12-22 09:58 pm

Comment indexing

Title:
Comment indexing

Area:
commenting

Summary:
Build a thingy that will pull the subject lines and direct links from top-level comments on a post and output them in some kind of useful format (maybe a table or a list?) which can be inserted into the body of the post (hopefully under a cut-tag). Bonus points if it can be set to periodically run an automatic update.

Description:
This suggestion is motivated by my total lack of enthusiasm for spending an evening manually indexing a meme. I don't want to do that, that's a database query. Someone should build a thingy so the server can do this job for me.

Specific thingy-implementation-related issues should be conceptualized by someone with more thingy design and implementation experience than I have.

Poll #8881 Comment indexing
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 75


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Should be implemented as-is.
47 (62.7%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
1 (1.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (4.0%)

(I have no opinion)
24 (32.0%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

melannen: Commander Valentine of Alpha Squad Seven, a red-haired female Nick Fury in space, smoking contemplatively (Default)
[personal profile] melannen2011-11-16 12:13 am

Comment length warning in preview

Title:
Comment length warning in preview

Area:
commenting

Summary:
It would be nice if the comment preview screen told you whether you'd reached the character comment limit, without you needing to actually press "post" to find out.

Description:
Sometimes people post prompt memes where other people leave really long stories in comments! Sometimes these stories overflow even DW's very generous comment character limits.

Right now, if you try to post a comment that goes over the limit, you get an error message that tells you your comment is too long, how many characters are allowed, and how many characters your comment is.

It would be great if that error message appeared on the comment preview, as well as when trying to post - that way people wouldn't have to guess about whether their comment will fit, and how many comments they will need total.

(Or they could look up what the comment limit is, and then use an external character counter, but that's <I>hard</i> :P)

It would be even cooler if the error message did the math for you and told you how many comments you would need, total, in order to fit the whole thing!

Poll #8839 Comment length warning in preview
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 90


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Should be implemented as-is.
71 (78.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
14 (15.6%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
5 (5.6%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

unicorn: a unicorn skull. (Default)
[personal profile] unicorn2011-10-31 07:28 am

top level/flat comments as default entry view option

Title:
top level/flat comments as default entry view option

Area:
Site's view style as implemented through Manage Account page

Summary:
The My Account Settings page gives us the option of ticking a box that will show all entries in our own style. Why not further customize the entry view defaults using the newly available Top Level and Flat comment page options?

Description:
The "View comment pages in your own style" option under the Display section in Account Settings is a simple way to further customize your Dreamwidth experience. It operates by automatically displaying links to other peoples' entries with the addition of an "?style=mine." You can always manually remove that part of the link if you want to view the original style, and it makes reading comment pages easier for many people who dislike having to deal with a bunch of different styles.

Because the new "Top Level Comment" and "Flat" options for comment pages are also accessed via link changing (adding "&view=top-only#comments" or "&view=flat#comments" to the end of the existing link), it seems to me like it would be simple to add another ticky box under the Display section: "Comment Page Default View" or something of that nature, with a dropdown menu containing the options Threaded, Top Level, and Flat - the way the Entry View Style looks right now, basically, with a similar function. This would be even easier to maneuver around than the ?style=mine change if you got to a top level comment page and decided you wanted to see the threaded version, because the links to different styles of comment pages are already automatically available at the top of every entry.

This would be useful for people whose reading lists and preferred reading areas on the site tend to be either extremely large or extremely small. A default top level comment view would easily let you see what topic discussions were being started in extremely large posts without having to load a thousand comments, and flat only would let you see everything being said at once in smaller posts (you'd just have to be careful not to click 1k comment monsters casually if you had that option turned on!)

Honestly, if only one of these could be implemented, a default top level view seems more potentially useful to me, and maybe only a few people would use even that. But since this is so close in execution to an option already available to us, it seems to me (though I have no background in coding to verify this!) that the effort required to offer either or both of these as potential default views as well would be worth the payoff.

Poll #8831 top level/flat comments as default entry view option
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 54


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Should be implemented as-is.
24 (44.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
1 (1.9%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
6 (11.1%)

(I have no opinion)
22 (40.7%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.9%)

Make choosing random icon a button

Title:
Make choosing random icon a button

Area:
entries, commenting

Summary:
Convert text into a button instead, to avoid confusion.

Description:
To use the nifty "Use Random Icon" feature, you click the text "Use Random Icon". This is good, except that right next to the text is a button called "Quote". Inevitably my mind will think that the button refers to the text (that is, "Use Random Icon": [randomiconbutton]), instead of what it really is: two separate commands. I end up clicking the button, even though it says "Quote", simply because of this; oftentimes, the comment page is styled differently, and clues such as underlined-and-in-blue-colour text aren't present. I suggest we make both of them buttons, if possible, to reduce confusion.

I'm not sure about drawbacks, having no idea of comment coding. Text too long for a button? Interfering with the text in comment?

Poll #8668 Make choosing random icon a button
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 63


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Should be implemented as-is.
33 (52.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
2 (3.2%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (4.8%)

(I have no opinion)
25 (39.7%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Not-Publicly-Identified Commenting

Title:
Not-Publicly-Identified Commenting

Area:
comments, anonymous comments

Summary:
Comments where the username of the commenter is visible to the journal owner and/or community admins, but no one else. Journal owners/admins would be able to control this like any other commenting option, but would not be able to make the comment publicly display the username after the fact.

Description:
Assuming the journal owner has allowed it, a commenter would be able to select "Do not identify me publicly" (or some much smoother phrase) as an option when commenting, so that their comment is displayed as anonymous to everyone but the journal owner (or the community's admins).

This would allow many of the benefits of an anonymous discussion taking place in the public sphere (people who cannot for whatever reason allow their opinions or experiences to be traced to their Dreamwidth identity as far as the public is concerned) but would also allow the people moderating the discussion to confirm at least relative identity. (In a recent high-profile discussion, one person in the publishing industry was accepting comments by email to post anonymously with a description of that person's authority to be saying what they said.) It would also allow people to correct typographical errors or delete things that they had second thoughts about.

The commenter would have to trust that the journal owner/admin would not "out" them, which could be done deliberately (think screenshot), accidentally (referring to a person by name in a reply), or inadvertently (using information that they didn't think would be identifying, but was known to a third party witnessing the discussion). The commenter would also have to be careful of not sharing sufficient information to out themselves, and not anon-failing (posting fully identified in a forum where they had previously been posting anonymously).

This would be a possible workable way of allowing anonymity into locked entries. The usual problems with allowing anonymous comments on locked entries are mostly social - the journal owner would know that it's a small pool of potential commenters and can play matching games; the entry might be restricted to a very specific security group, such that someone might think themselves anonymous and comment, but could be the only person in the security group and therefore identifiable. However, with knowledge that their identity is visible only to the journal owner/admin(s), someone could comment "anonymously" with a more informed mindset (though fellows in the pool of people given access might still figure them out based on the fact that access is listed in the profile).

This would be great for anonymous games (anonymemes, kink memes, darkrooms, the pride thread). It would preserve accountability while retaining at least some part of the anything-goes spirit.

This was inspired by a locked discussion about drug use and abuse, which could possibly have used a feature like this. We're all there because we know the journal owner, not because we trust each other necessarily.

Poll #8393 Not-Publicly-Identified Commenting
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 84


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Should be implemented as-is.
44 (52.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
20 (23.8%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
7 (8.3%)

(I have no opinion)
13 (15.5%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

lightgetsin: The Doodledog with frisbee dangling from her mouth, looking mischievious, saying innocence personified. (Default)

Include 'from' on comment preview

Title:
Include 'from' on comment preview

Area:
comments, identities

Summary:
Comment preview should display who you are making the comment as, in addition to subject and text.

Description:
When I post a comment with a secondary journal while logged in as me, then hit preview, the preview screen doesn't include the information about what account will be posting the comment. I think it definitely should -- I often post in contexts where I double-check multiple times to make sure I'm using the right name, because it would be bad/identity-crossing if I don't. Having this on preview will be useful, and might remind users to change identities if they should, but have forgotten.

Will also be useful someday when there's a multiple accounts system.

Poll #7985 Include 'from' on comment preview
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 62


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Should be implemented as-is.
54 (87.1%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
8 (12.9%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Alternative to IP address logging (identicons)

Title:
Alternative to IP address logging (identicons)

Area:
comments, anonymous comments

Summary:
Offer identicons (or an equivalent method, for non-visual site users) as an alternative to IP addresses to attempt to distinguish Little Thing One from Little Thing Two, when both are commenting anonymously in someone's journal.

Description:
This suggestion is inspired by fiddlingfrog's suggestion on LiveJournal, and I thank him very much for bringing it up there. http://suggestions.livejournal.com/1085295.html #Dreamwidth IRC was also helpful in sorting out quite a bit of this.


Add identicons as another option for journals that allow anonymous comments, but don't necessarily want completely anonymous comments. This could be instead of, or in addition to, directly logging IP addresses for the journal owner to access. For visual users, an icon can sometimes also be more immediately recognized than an IP address.

Completely anonymous comments would still be available for places that require them, such as anonymous games (fic memes, anonymemes, love memes) and journals who wish to allow the totally anonymous comment experience.

For users who would like to attempt to tell anonymous commenters apart to the extent offered by IP address logging, but without actually logging IP addresses of all anonymous commenters, using an identicon could be a useful compromise.

The use of identicons in a journal should be disclosed to potential commenters similar to the way that IP address logging is disclosed, so a commenter may make their own decision prior to commenting.

Identicons on otherwise completely anonymous comments could be displayed to all visitors to that entry.

Identicons on comments that had their IP address logged could have the identicon displayed to all visitors, and continue to have the IP address displayed to only the journal owner.

The same identicon could be used all over the site for the same IP address; fiddlingfrog suggests that to provide a little more anonymity for anonymous users in different contexts, that the identicon could also use journal information (same identicon for same IP all through a single journal, but different in each journal) or even by entry (same identicon in one entry but different in the next, even in the same journal).

When "named anonymous" commenting is implemented, identicons could be created based on name, email address, or external journal location, to add visual interest to the comment space. Named anonymous commenters might be able to choose for themselves whether to use an identicon.


Should journals that use identicons log the IP address in a place where it could be accessed by appropriate site administrators (staff, Terms of Service team), but not the journal owner?

Identicons, or lack thereof, would make no difference to the anti-spam team.



What are identicons?

Identicons are little pictures based indirectly on identifying information. The identifying information (IP address, email address, etc.) has been passed through a process that mangles it non-reversibly while still keeping it most likely unique. If the same data is presented to the process a second time, it should come out in the same mangled format as the first.

Once the identifying information has been mangled into something equally unique, but no longer identifying (for example, an IP address that has been mangled can't be used to locate someone's Internet Service Provider or rough geographical location) it can be used to create an image, or maybe a sound file, or maybe just served up raw if there's no better way to get the information to a user in a form that's accessible to them.

Wikipedia article on identicons: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Identicon


Possible confusion:

Identicons do not provide any more continuity of identity than the source they are derived from. An identicon that is derived from an email address is likely to be the same person, so long as that person does not share their email address with anyone else, and so long as they keep the same email address.

Identicons derived from IP addresses have the same problems with matching comments to their actual human author as IP addresses, but without the additional helpful information that can be obtained from an IP address. Three anonymous comments coming from three different IP addresses that belong to the same internet service provider and are assigned to the same local area might actually be the same person. Since identicons cannot be reverse-engineered to reveal the originating IP address, the same three comments would have different identicons and might not be suspected to be the same person.

An identicon that is based on an IP address would only indicate a single person so long as the same person had one IP address and no other, and did not share it with anyone else commenting. If multiple anonymous users (say, from the same household at the same time, or same general geographic area and internet service provider at different times) commented and had the same IP address when commenting, they would be issued the same identicon and might be mistaken for each other. A single person might comment from home, comment from work, comment again from home after rebooting their cable-modem, and have three different IP addresses and therefore three different identicons.


Specific implementation suggestions

The "Vash" (visual hash) identicon generation engine is free to open source projects with a GPL-compatible license. Dreamwidth's code is licensed under the GPL + Artistic license. This particular implementation of the concept is aware of quite a few accessibility needs and is willing to work with projects if there are additional needs that their product does not currently support. If identicons are different for each journal space, the journal owner could conceivably provide settings to make identicons in their own space best suited to their own needs. http://www.thevash.com/index.html http://www.thevash.com/docs.html#faqs

Poll #7853 Alternative to IP address logging (identicons)
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 52


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Should be implemented as-is.
11 (21.2%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
4 (7.7%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
12 (23.1%)

(I have no opinion)
25 (48.1%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Comment moderation tool: disemvowelling et al

Title:
Comment moderation tool: disemvowelling et al

Area:
comment moderation

Summary:
Introduce a reversible "mask" that may be turned on at a comment-by-comment level by a journal owner or community administrator, that initially displays a particular comment slightly obfuscated, serving as a warning that anyone who puzzles out the comment as displayed, or goes through to read the full version, that they do so at their own risk.

Description:
Current comment moderation tools involve leaving any possibly problematic (for any reason) comments in place, adding more comments, deleting the possibly problematic comment(s), screening them so only the journal owner/admins and the comment creator can see it, and disallowing any new responses to a particular comment or thread.

Missing from this toolbox is an option that leaves the comment in place, but in a way that clearly signals to a reader that while they *can* read this comment, they may not *want* to, and in a way that is friendly to the sort of fast reader who can take in a paragraph at a time before their brain has caught up with the idea that they may not want to read that, but also in a way that is friendly to someone who already struggles to read the text as presented.

Unlike similar tactics on self-hosted blogs, this would not involve actually editing the comment left by the other party. It would alter the display of the comment, with a clear notice that the display had been altered, and a control that any reader could use to view the comment as originally written.

This could be used for abusive comments, controversial/flamebait/triggery topics, and probably also spoilers and content warnings, and for comment-space games and other fun uses. (Owners might like the ability to proactively turn this mode on to set every comment this way at posting time, for entries likely to collect heated response, or for games. Commenters might like the option to self-moderate in this fashion for games and potentially triggery content.)

Options for the form of alteration could include:

Disemvowelling, where all vowels detected in the original are removed, making text that can often be puzzled out slowly without reversing the obfuscation. Can be read faster by someone who's used to it, makes hash of most HTML included. Popularized & I believe invented on Making Light, where I believe it's done by hand. Suitable for English; not so suitable for languages where vowels are implied rather than stated already; can be trivially defeated by writing in 1337 and other character-substitution methods; would need to have non-Roman vowels identified also.

ROT13, where all characters are moved around 13 places in their alphabet. (This is most useful for alphabets with 26 letters.) This makes text that most readers have to work through character by character, but some very experienced readers can read through at speed. Many existing ROT13 functions leave punctuation and non-English characters intact.

Display of a warning message without context derived from original text. No chance of something leaking through due to algorithmic shortcomings, because nothing would show; 100% chance that anyone wanting to read the comment would would have to request its display, causing a certain amount of potential extra server load.

Display of a warning message with optional context (similar to a comment edit message) to be provided by the journal owner/community admin. For screenreader users, the context should probably appear before the control to reveal the original comment.

Poll #7753 Comment moderation tool: disemvowelling et al
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 67


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Should be implemented as-is.
23 (34.3%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
14 (20.9%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
15 (22.4%)

(I have no opinion)
14 (20.9%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.5%)

[personal profile] rho2011-05-26 11:51 pm

Split comment screening into moderation and private comments

Title:
Split comment screening into moderation and private comments

Area:
comments

Summary:
As it currently stands, comment screening is used for two very different purposes. It's used to allow the journal owner to check over comments before they are visible, and it's used to make private comments that are never intended to be seen by anyone other than the journal owner. I propose that this functionality be split in two.

Description:
[Based on http://dw-suggestions.dreamwidth.org/548634.html?thread=3291930#cmt3291930]

The original idea behind comment screening was that it should be like moderation. The journal's owner would have a chance to read over the comments before they were visible, and delete any that were incendiary, inappropriate or just plain spam.

What with users being users, a lot of people have found other uses to put this feature to, though, namely as a method of making private comments that aren't meant to be visible to anyone other than the journal owner.

While I always think it's great when people find unexpected uses for features, the problem here is that the two main uses are very different and have very different needs. Features that will benefit one usage can be to the detriment of the other.

The obvious example here is what happens when you reply to screened comments. In the original implementation, a comment would automatically be unscreened when you reply to it. This absolutely makes sense in the moderation model, but is disastrous for the hidden comments model. As a result, Dreamwidth no longer automatically unscreens comments when you reply to them.

What I'm proposing is that the overloaded concept of comment screening should be split into two. That is, we should have two features, one of which would be for comment moderation, and the other of which would be for making private comments. The biggest advantage to this would be that the two features could then be developed separately and in their own directions, without needing to worry about how they impact each other.

I think it would also be useful in terms of clarity of what the feature is for. There are also currently instances where it's not immediately obvious why the author is screening comments. For instance, if someone makes an emotional post about a controversial subject, they might want to screen comments to moderate out trolls, or they might want to screen comments because they don't have the emotional energy for public discussion. With the split, this would become much clearer.

The biggest disadvantage I can think of for this is the added complexity. this would especially be noticeable when posting entries, since there are already a lot of available options there.

The following are NOT part of this suggestion themselves, but are intended as examples of the sort of thing that could be done if this split were implemented.

* A reversion to the old behaviour of moderating comments automatically when they're replied to for moderated comments only.

* The implementation of comment moderation whitelists of people whose comments display without moderation (possibly based upon access lists).

* Allowing people to see how many comments are awaiting moderation on a post.

* The option for private comments to be truly private and not have any way of them being made public.

* Comments on an entry being able to be enforced public, enforced private or (the new setting) commenter chooses whether to be public or private.

* Giving the poster of a comment the ability to change the privacy status of their comments (if allowed in journal/entry settings).

Poll #7106 Split comment screening into moderation and private comments
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 62


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Should be implemented as-is.
30 (48.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
3 (4.8%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
11 (17.7%)

(I have no opinion)
17 (27.4%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.6%)

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[personal profile] tima2011-04-27 07:39 am

The "screen" option for a comment you leave at someone's post

Title:
The "screen" option for a comment you leave at someone's post

Area:
comments options

Summary:
Nice to have another option for a comment you leave at someone's post - screen the comment

Description:
Being in the LJ for 10 years I never understood why the "screen" option exists for an owner of a post only. People who comment someone's post do have an option "delete" for their comments, so why don't they have the "screen" option? To accomplish the same (in a way) result a commentator either has to send a private message directly to inbox or has to post a comment and immediately delete it to make it "invisible". Personally I hate to see a palisade of deleted comments mixed with still existing ones...

Poll #7079 The "screen" option for a comment you leave at someone's post
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 59


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Should be implemented as-is.
10 (16.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
7 (11.9%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
33 (55.9%)

(I have no opinion)
7 (11.9%)

(Other: please comment)
2 (3.4%)

Include information about icons in text-notifications for comments

Title:
Include information about icons in text-notifications for comments

Area:
comments, email notifications

Summary:
Include information about the icon in text-only emailed comment notifications.

Description:
For people who get plain text comment notifications and read their comments primarily in email, and load the site only when replying, this would be helpful in not missing nuances of the conversation being carried out in icons.

It is now easier to include icons meaningfully in text notifications because of the icon description field (though visual users using a graphic browser can still load the page and see the icon for themselves). The keyword used to select the icon should also be included, as this can provide some nuance in why that particular icon was chosen. If the comment was not chosen by keyword, the description should still be included: while many people know their friends' default icons by now, it may be a stranger commenting, or someone may have a new default icon.

This gives better historical context for people who save their comment notifications, as sometimes people change their icons. Rodney McKay viciously removing stupid obnoxiousness is a much better pair with a rant about Not Being That Guy than a mostly-unwrapped Pretty Young Thing.

The addition of icons can change a conversation: for example, "I see" is fairly neutral. A positively themed icon would make it unambiguously positive; a "FAIL" icon would make it unambiguously negative, and might push the conversation over the line where a community administrator might want to step in. (This situation happened years ago, but I remember it vividly.)

This would also be useful for comment edits: sometimes people (like me) edit their comments and only change the icon, and forget to put an edit reason. This results in the same text, without explanation, being sent in the emailed text notification of the edited comment. An observant recipient is probably going to figure that it was an icon edit, but including icon information in the notification would be helpful.

Poll #6523 Include information about icons in text-notifications for comments
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 55


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Should be implemented as-is.
34 (61.8%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
4 (7.3%)

(I have no opinion)
17 (30.9%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

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[personal profile] tkil2011-01-27 11:49 pm

ordered lists (<ol>) not rendered correctly in comment reply preview

Title:
ordered lists (&lt;ol&gt;) not rendered correctly in comment reply preview

Area:
comments

Summary:
Ordered lists seemed to be rendered as regular bullet lists in comment reply previews.

Description:
I used an &lt;ol&gt; ... &lt;/ol&gt; construction in a comment reply tonight, and the preview showed only small bullet points for each list item. (I was trying to get the total number to finish the point I was making, as well as trying to see what the final output would look like.)

When I did submit the reply, it rendered correctly in the view of all comments on the entry.

Reply in question: http://flemco.dreamwidth.org/3785826.html?thread=50847330#cmt50847330

Thanks!

Poll #5994 ordered lists (<ol>) not rendered correctly in comment reply preview
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 37


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Should be implemented as-is.
27 (73.0%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
0 (0.0%)

(I have no opinion)
10 (27.0%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)