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The Writer Formerly Known as RCD-Anon ([personal profile] elysium_fic) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2011-03-06 09:05 am

Request for sitename tag for DeviantArt

Title:
Request for sitename tag for DeviantArt

Area:
tags

Summary:
We need a tag for users at DeviantArt.

Description:
I know a lot of people who post to DeviantArt and sometimes when I mention them, I would rather do so using their dA link rather than their DW link. Could we get a tag for dA such as the one we have for AO3?

Poll #6472 Request for sitename tag for DeviantArt
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 73


This suggestion:

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Should be implemented as-is.
55 (75.3%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
2 (2.7%)

(I have no opinion)
16 (21.9%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

noracharles: (Default)

[personal profile] noracharles 2011-04-02 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
I voted yes :-)

However, I'd like to point out that Dreamwidth allows you to link to all user profiles on other sites that follow this pattern: [root url]/users/exampleusername/profile
so it's not something put especially in place for anyone's "pet" sites.

The way you do it is you add the "site" tag to the ordinary user name tag, for example:
<user name=exampleusername site=siteijustmadeup.com>, which will give you [siteijustmadeup.com profile] exampleusername. If Dreamwidth doesn't know the userhead, you get a Dreamwidth userhead with a little link icon on it to show that it goes off site.

So the reason we can use user name tags to link to LiveJournal and the AO3 and not to DeviantArt is that their user profile links are structured differently.
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[staff profile] denise 2011-04-02 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
I should also point out, it's fairly easy for us to add additional sites -- literally a matter of copy and paste with a few changes! -- so suggestions like these are very, very low-effort for us to implement. :)
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[personal profile] noracharles 2011-04-02 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! I love the user name links with all their little different userheads :-D
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[personal profile] stormy 2011-04-02 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I keep wondering what little emblem I'd suggest with Plurk or Tumblr - both of which are pretty popular, and all I can think of is the Plurk P and Tumblr t, which could get confusing with twitter's t even though that is what is normally used.

Voting yes because more visible and easy integration is always nice.
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[personal profile] matgb 2011-04-02 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I always recommend the favicon--Twitter has moved away from the T in favour of a little bird, so the Tumblr t wouldn't confuse too much. Especially as the colours & design are different.
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[personal profile] nonethefewer 2011-04-02 07:02 pm (UTC)(link)
...I didn't even know that.  Huh.  I really need to read the FAQ more often.
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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-04-02 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What should the different parts (the userhead and the username) link to? Preferably,for consistency with Dreamwidth-like and LiveJournal-like sites, the userhead would link to the user's profile or "about me" page and the username would link to their blog, but not knowing anything about DA, I'm not sure there's something that makes sense as an equivalent.
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[personal profile] pauamma 2011-04-02 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
So that might do for the profile. (what's linked from the userhead). Whay should be linked to the username is less clear. (Should it be the journal or the gallery?)
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[personal profile] matgb 2011-04-02 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say gallery, it's the primary use for the site--I have an account there to see stuff unrestricted (their adult settings are weird), but I'd not expect anyone to link to me there, I'd say if someone is linking to an offsite user on DA, it's because the DA gallery has content.
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[personal profile] arethinn 2011-04-04 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd say Gallery.

[personal profile] feathertail 2011-04-02 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems like we ought to be able to do this without having to add each thing manually. What if we just had a universal protocol of some kind, like having it like to NAME.site and use the favicon or something? Then added in edge cases like LJ userheads and Twitter URLs.

Maybe that should be a separate suggestion ... I suspect I'm not thinking it through very well though.
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[personal profile] matgb 2011-04-02 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Problem with that is figuring out ways of defining it--we link to both a profile and a journal, and for other sites there're issues, any site can be linked to , but it'll always link to site/user/name and then ../name/profile, which doesn't work for a lot of sites.

There are ways of coding it so you define everything, but that will be difficult to spec and once you get past a certain amount of typing, might as well just hardcode the link manually.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-04-03 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Ha, I see we're reading each other's minds again.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-04-03 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
It already does a similar thing for any site that has its user accounts placed where LJ used to have theirs: <user name="username" site="example.com"> turns into [example.com profile] username but I think user subdomains are getting popular enough to make a command switch to make a site of unknown format work right... Hm.

user name="username" site="example.com" location type="subdomain"/type="directory" & dir="dirname"? Or at that point is it easier to code it by hand?
Edited (STUPID autocorrect likes apostrophes too much. ) 2011-04-03 00:11 (UTC)

[personal profile] feathertail 2011-04-03 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like it ought to require the least amount of effort.

In my wildest dreams I'm imagining a shared protocol between every membership site, that makes cross-site linking tres easy. (Plus adding in avatar support to OpenID, instead of argh Gravatar trying to be the de factor standard.)

The next best thing might be either a heuristic detection library (complicated), or a URL redirector like bit.ly, that factors in usernames.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-04-03 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Here is where to look for the file where it is defined: if it is not defined or is not reachable, default to $STANDARDS for icon, profile, and main user content (unless you have a local override); if it is defined, the icon is here, the location of the user profile is here, the location of the main user content is here. Here is how often to check back for changes.



[personal profile] feathertail 2011-04-03 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
It seems so simple. How the heck do important standards get widespread adoption, though? It doesn't seem like there's any way to make this particular one useful without it.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2011-04-03 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
There are groups of people who talk about stuff and agree on it, as well as agreements between sites. I wonder what there already is in the RFCs about this topic.
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[personal profile] matgb 2011-04-03 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
(this is the first time I've had a comment notification with the edit reason, it's rather cool, nice to see it setout where it is)