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dw_suggestions2009-08-06 10:06 am
"LJ Cut "Titles as Subtitles
Title:
"LJ Cut "Titles as Subtitles
Area:
entries
Summary:
Having the "title" language of cuts appear in the full text of the entry.
Description:
Multiple LJ cuts are sometimes used as subheadings within an entry, but when you click on the first cut, the whole entry appears and any/all subsequent cuts disappear.
If you want to keep the flow of the entry, you have to "repeat" the cut by copying the lj-cut text again as some kind of title or bold text.
Even for initial cuts, sometimes people use the text in the title to start off a thought that they continue in the actual entry itself, but that title again disappears.
If the lj-cut text could always appear within the document, it would make things much simpler and maintain the original flow and setup of the entry. I can't count the number of times I've had to go back to my reading list or the journal itself to reread the subsequent cuts and follow where the flow of thought changes (or go back and edit my own entries to have the cut title language show up twice--as a cut and as a subheading).
Sure, you can just have the cuts as the default "read more" and the title separate (which is what I did before I figured out the lj-cut title="title here"* format.
I'm not a coding person to know how difficult or easy such a change would be, but I know on communities where there are moderated entries (it's how we as mods catch when one's been forgotten), lj-cuts appear as blue titles within the document, so maybe something similar could happen on actual entries.
* P.S. What is the dreamwidth equivalent of coding "lj-cut"?
This suggestion:
Should be implemented as-is.
10 (17.2%)
Should be implemented with changes.
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Shouldn't be implemented.
29 (50.0%)
(I have no opinion)
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(Other: please comment)
5 (8.6%)
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"cut"
My reasons against:
a) backwards-compatibility: already existing entries and entries that will be imported
b) many people don't use cuts that way - and if I don't want this text to appear in my entry in this case, I couldn't give my cut a title at all
c) that would mean no other HTML could be added specifically to that portion of the entry, so even if I want to use the same title, I couldn't make it appear centered.
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"cut"
Oh, thanks! :-)
a. I didn't think of the issues with backwards compatibility. It would repeat repeat often often. But I don't know that would bother me as much.
b. They don't? Granted my blogging experience is relatively limited, but I'd been seeing it that way a lot. Either making things as titles or as the beginning of a sentence that's then continued under the cut. Now I'm curious how people use cuts (maybe I've been doing it "wrong".)
c. This is why you guys are the tech-minded.
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Well, I can imagine all of the fanfic authors who suddenly have their title appearing twice would be bothered :)
Now I'm curious how people use cuts (maybe I've been doing it "wrong".)
You are definitely not. However, I do stuff like "continue behind the cut" and "text cut for length" or "poll behind the cut" or "10 images", and a lot of people do as well. Just because I *know* the text won't show up on the entry page I try to explain the cut.
c. This is why you guys are the tech-minded.
Thsi is actuall the point I am not sure about. But if I put the title of my story in my cut I also want it bolded and centered and I am not sure whether that would work then.
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On the other hand, I know some writers who've posted stuff where... I kinda miss not seeing the cut-tag's title-text, actually.
Now, the really clever hack would be to make the code somehow identify if the text immediately following the cut-tag was identical to the text within the cut-tag-title, and then not duplicate. But that would probably not be easy.
Hm. I wonder if that could be a Style option? "Show cut-tag text on [my/all] individual messages"?
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Hm. I like it on one level, and on another level, the Luddite in me insists it's too obscure and less likely to play nice with antique browsers. Heh.
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Hiding photos (for example, "9 more photos behind the cut", which is a summary of the contents)
Hiding tl;dr (the default "read more" works here)
Concealing spoilers on the friends page (but not if linked to directly), and sometimes that could use a "Spoilers!" warning in the main text too
Censorship (I have occasionally done a "What the <lj-cut text="@#&$!">FUCK</lj-cut> is going on here?!" sort of thing)
Summary by starting the sentence (as you described, although bold/center would really not go in all cases)
Summary by continuing ("So then there was the squirrel incident, <lj-cut text="in which Ben was stupid and ultimately lost his best friend."> where Ben thought he'd play a prank on his best friend by spreading peanut butter in his shoes. Unfortunately, a squirrel discovered them before his best friend did. Also unfortunately, his best friend discovered them slightly after the squirrel did, and the squirrel did not notice him coming. Dave stepping on the squirrel might not have been all that bad if only the squirrel had not bitten him, and had the squirrel not then fled into the house (still covered in peanut butter). Even that would have been somewhat understandable under the circumstances, had only Ben not been incapacitated with laughter throughout the entire sorry affair.</lj-cut>")
...and probably more.
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