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Mat Bowles ([personal profile] matgb) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2009-12-05 07:56 pm

Allow an icon keyword to be assigned as primary keyword for selection, etc

Title:
Allow an icon keyword to be assigned as primary keyword for selection, etc

Area:
icons

Summary:
For icons that have multiple keywords, make it possible to have one only that appears on the drop down menu for posting and commenting.

Description:
Many of my icons have aquired more than one keyword over the years, some because they may have multiple usage contexts, others because I've given them the keyword of an old, deleted icon.

While I might like to merge the keywords together, in some cases I would like to keep both keywords extant, in order that I may change icons again in the future.

Example: I have an icon tagged both ORLY and YARLY. At one point, I had a different owl for both, but currently I have Daleks and Cybermen conversing--I may in the future want to split them up, but currently both keywords appear in every drop down menu, cluttering up my already long dropdown (and, presumably, mildly increasing server load, etc each time).

If the first listed keyword for each icon was allowed as an option to be the primary keyword, others could be retained but my selection menues would be a lot easier to navigate and less annoying.

If this isn't possible, a way of listing old keywords that have been renamed would be useful, as they can still then be resurrected.

(NB this would also help those crossposting who have more icons on one or other site, they can use the full keyword set on both sites but still have manageable selection menues)

Edit: To clarify, my suggestion is to allow people to choose, if they wish, a primary keyword, not to force all icons to only have one primary keyword, I want to supplement and improve current behaviour, not replace it.

Poll #1834 Allow an icon keyword to be assigned as primary keyword for selection, etc
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 25


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Should be implemented as-is.
9 (36.0%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
2 (8.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
5 (20.0%)

(I have no opinion)
8 (32.0%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (4.0%)

kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)

[personal profile] kyrielle 2009-12-06 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, wait. If I edit the keyword on an icon now it will retroactively edit all my posts to use that icon-keyword even if it's inappropriate? Did I miss something? Can I avoid this? I do not consider that good functionality the way I use icons...!
kaigou: this is what I do, darling (2 dot dot dot)

[personal profile] kaigou 2009-12-06 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm.

Heh. That's about all I can say. I'm absolutely baffled. I mean, what do we end up with, the database effectively believing/storing that we actually have quadruple the number of icons if we have, say, four keywords for each icon?

I mean, I'm still back on the "lack of way to sort icons other than alphabetically" because I tend to mentally group icons. I've ended up numbering all icons to force them into sub-groups -- which destroys any keywording options, anyway.
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)

[personal profile] kyrielle 2009-12-07 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I sometimes have an icon I use for 2-3 distinct purposes. If I later upload a better icon for one of those purposes, I take the keyword off the one icon (which I retain for its other purposes) and put it on the new icon. Other times I might merge two icons that see less use than I thought they would and that can both fit with one visual image, but the concepts behind why I use them or when I use them may be distinct enough that I don't want to merge the keywords or the uses on other posts.
yvi: Kaylee half-smiling, looking very pretty (Default)

[personal profile] yvi 2009-12-06 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That function is not live yet.

As far as I can see, if you have something like this:

icon 1: key1, key2

you can then change it to:

icon 1: key3, key4

and every post and comment with ke1 will be edited to use key3 and key2 to key4.

This is optional, though, you need to specifically select it.
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)

[personal profile] kyrielle 2009-12-07 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Optional is the word I was missing. I breathe a big sigh of relief - seems like a great feature as long as it's not automatic. :)
cesy: "Cesy" - An old-fashioned quill and ink (Default)

[personal profile] cesy 2009-12-06 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It should be a tickybox option when you rename, so you can just not tick it.
kyrielle: painterly drawing of a white woman with large dark-blue-framed glasses, hazel eyes, brown hair, and a suspicious lack of blemishes (Default)

[personal profile] kyrielle 2009-12-07 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
Whew. Thank you!