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blackorange ([personal profile] blackorange) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2017-01-05 07:20 pm

posting a comment

posting a comment


is it possible to implement a worldwide hotkey ctrl+enter for posting a comment?

is it possible to implement a worldwide hotkey "ctrl+enter" for posting a comment?

Poll #18024 posting a comment
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 34

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Should be implemented as-is.
2 (5.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
4 (11.8%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
8 (23.5%)

(I have no opinion)
20 (58.8%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

[personal profile] swaldman 2017-02-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
This would be quite nice, but I think it would have to be optional or configurable (recognising that that makes it less likely to be done).

The reason is that there are two competing conventions out there: One (possibly originating from MS Outlook? not sure) is that Enter is new line and Ctrl-enter is "post this". The other (used on Facebook, probably didn't originate there) is that Enter posts something and Ctrl-enter is new line.

Imposing one of these idioms without the option to turn it off would probably annoy a lot of people who are used to the other.

Or, am I underestimating users?
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2017-02-22 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I am accustomed to Shift+Enter being "new line" in a paradigm where Enter is "post this", rather than Ctrl+Enter.

[personal profile] swaldman 2017-02-22 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Just tested, and both work on Facebook ;-)

[personal profile] jazzyjj 2017-02-25 03:29 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. I am a screen reader user, and I have absolutely no trouble using keyboard commands to submit my comments. Perhaps this suggestion would work better for those who don't use screen readers, and should be configurable via a pop-up menu or something. Or, perhaps if/when a dedicated Dreamwidth app is developed this could be one of the options? I currently have Control-Enter set as the command to post a tweet after I compose it using a dedicated Twitter app for the Mac which is accessible with Apple's on-board screen reader.

[personal profile] zaluzianskya 2017-02-22 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not entirely sure this is necessary. We already have a key combination that allows for posting a comment without using the mouse: Tab and then Enter.
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[personal profile] matgb 2017-02-22 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for reminding me that this is what I always do, the suggestion was bugging me and I couldn't figure out why.

Make sure the site always keeps the taskflow of tab taking you to submit and we're good, IIRC LJ has managed to break the taskflow with extra features several times.
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[personal profile] matgb 2017-02-23 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Correct. But if the tab button always takes you to the submit comment button, it will always do exactly what you want from a full hot key.
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[personal profile] marahmarie 2017-02-22 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
As [personal profile] swaldman says, there's two ways to use Ctrl + Enter so I'd want to know which one is being targeted by this Suggestion before voting (unless Suggestion poster wants the key combo to have the ability to do either newline or comment posting, but without specifying, there's no way for me to know that, so I can't vote!).

(Also, I have no horse in this as I never use that key combo, myself - I'm simply curious to know what the Suggestion poster's thoughts on it would be.)
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[personal profile] marahmarie 2017-02-23 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that's what I was asking, thanks! Voting in favor of, as that seems perfectly reasonable.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2017-02-22 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I've caught myself doing Ctrl+Enter every now and then here, if I've been spending a lot of time on Twitter lately.
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[personal profile] brainwane 2017-02-26 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
A cautious vote for this idea.

I don't have any absolute specific reasons for being cautious about a *worldwide* hotkey combo, but there is something in the back of my brain that is itchy, concerned that there's an OS, a browser, a popular browser extension, an accessibility application, a human language, etc. that this new feature would collide with.