Separate crosspost footer for when comments are disabled on Dreamwidth.

[azurelunatic]

Title:
Separate crosspost footer for when comments are disabled on Dreamwidth.

Area:
crossposting, entries

Summary:
Add a separate crosspost footer for when comments on Dreamwidth are disabled.

Description:
Sometimes you just want to turn off all comments, no matter where you're posting.

Currently, when comments are disabled on Dreamwidth, the "comments disabled locally" footer is used. This footer is also used when comments are disabled on the crossposted-elsewhere entry but turned on at the Dreamwidth entry. This increases the chances that people will have put text explicitly inviting people to go over to Dreamwidth to comment.

If comments on Dreamwidth are disabled, it makes no sense to invite a person viewing your entry on a remote site to come to Dreamwidth and leave a comment.

It is one more setting to potentially confuse people, but the alternative involves confusing and annoying a more broad range of people on other sites with every cross-posted entry that invites people to comment but it turns out not to be possible.

[feature already exists; poll closed.]

Poll #6509 Separate crosspost footer for when comments are disabled on Dreamwidth.

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Should be implemented as-is.
31 (60.8%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
1 (2.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
1 (2.0%)

(I have no opinion)
16 (31.4%)

(Other: please comment)
2 (3.9%)

Comments

[pseudomonas]

I don't get what's being suggested as a solution here.

[matgb]

I currently have one footer, that's either used or not whenever I crosspost. That footer is carefully worded by me to specifically invite people to comment here. Some people have completely disable comments off site and only want comments ehre.

But sometimes, people turn comments off here, but the footer isn't editable or replaceable easily while posting--it would be good to have a custom footer for those use cases, I'd rarely use it, but if I did turn comments off it'd be rude to ask peope to come comment then have them jump trhough login hoops then find they can't comment.

Does that explain it differently/better?

[pseudomonas]

Ah, so the custom footer for comments-disabled-on-DW should be editable from the posting form?

[matgb]

Or there should be the option to have more than one stored footer--I'd like the latter as there are different types of posts I make and some are more important to keep conversations together, etc.

But essentially, yes, some way of changing the footer while posting.

[pseudomonas]

I think I'd favour a "You haven't set a custom footer for when comments are disabled" notice with a link to the settings page.

[pseudomonas]

I have a "posted at Dreamwidth, comments there" footer and a "posted at Dreamwidth, comments disabled there as well" footer at present, set through http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/settings/?cat=othersites

[matgb]

Ah, um, yeah.

Az? the feature you request appears to exist already. Not only that, but I've edited mine to do clever stuff with the text, so it must've been there for awhile.

This footer is also used when comments are disabled on the crossposted-elsewhere entry but turned on at the Dreamwidth entry.

That's weird behaviour, I've read it as 'comments disabled on DW' and worded appropriately, should the client be determing which footer to use based on off site global journal settings?

[azurelunatic]

I tested before posting. There are two options, and the "local comments" is comments on the remote site. http://azurelunatic.dreamwidth.org/6514830.html

[chagrined]

Local comments is Dreamwidth comments. At least, I have my two footers set up that way, with comments always disabled on the remote site. When comments are enabled on DW, it uses the first footer defined on http://www.dreamwidth.org/manage/settings/?cat=othersites and when comments are disabled here it displays the second footer which says "The original entry on Dreamwidth has comments disabled."

[azurelunatic]

... or maybe I've completely misunderstood the option. Which happens!

[matgb]

Busy today, will play later. I had always assumed 'local' comments were DW comments, if not, that should be clearer in the site copy. Much much clearer.

[ninetydegrees]

I thought this was what http://dw-suggestions.dreamwidth.org/168890.html was about.