Allow crosspost footers to also be put in the footers of RSS feeds

[matgb]

Title:
Allow crosspost footers to also be put in the footers of RSS feeds

Area:
RSS

Summary:
The crosspost footer can be used in a more flexible way, by allowing it to be put at the base of posts that leave the site in other ways, such as RSS feeds.

ETA: NB, we're not talkinag about feeds syndicated to DW, we're talking about the RSS feeds our journals/comms release to other sites.

Description:
Many users use the crossposter to other sites, and look forward to it working with other platforms as well.

Others still have their content syndicated in some way, for example imported into Facebook notes or onto a Livejournal feed.

I have kept my notes import for Facebook coming from Livejournal, as that way the crosspost footer stays. In the comments to this suggestion:
http://dw-suggestions.dreamwidth.org/435390.html

it's come up that some people comment on syndicated content on Livejournal thinking it's going to go to the author, which is obviously not true. Allowing a footer displayed within the feed would help solve this problem.

Some sort of feed footer seems to be a fairly standard feature of other platforms, they definitely exist for some Blogger and Wordpress powered feeds I read, and this would definitely help cross site interoperability.

Drawbacks: Optional opt in, with wording editable by the user, apart from coding time and possible extra server load for the comment # image, I see none.

Poll #4510 Allow crosspost footers to also be put in the footers of RSS feeds

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 38

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Should be implemented as-is.
22 (57.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
3 (7.9%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
1 (2.6%)

(I have no opinion)
12 (31.6%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Comments

[jadelennox]

the outside sources pointed to by RSS feeds often change the methods/direct links to the "leave a comment" option. If I understand this correctly, you would be putting in a footer to the directly the comment option, and they would have to be the ability to change that. Would that have to be a support request? Sounds like a pain for support.

[matgb]

outside sources pointed to by RSS feeds often change the methods/direct links to the "leave a comment" option

Afraid I don't understand exactly what you mean by this, sorry, could you give an example?

Would that have to be a support request?

I suspect you're talkinag about feeds syndicated to DW, whereas I'm talking about the RSS feeds our journals/comms release to other sites.

Happy to clear up confusion, but I'm not sure what you're asking, making it harder.

[jadelennox]

I'm talking about the RSS feeds our journals/comms release to other sites

Cap a h, sorry. I misunderstood, and my entire comment/question is based on me thinking that you were talking about the opposite -- having our RSS feeds that are syndicated to dreamwidth include a separate footer that points directly to comments or somesuch. Disregard, sorry.

[matgb]

Ah, figures. Yes, completely different thing. There are plans afoot for getting comments on syndicated feeds working as per web standards, but they're either in different suggestions or Bugzilla.

[kyrielle]

My as-is vote is based on this comment - I originally read it the way jadelennox did - as something to be put onto the footers of inbound feeds syndicated onto Dreamwidth, not outbound feeds others might have in their readers. It makes a lot more sense with this explanation, which may be worth editing into the post.

[matgb]

Done, danke, thought it was clear, but making it moreso is good.

[zvi]

I'm not understanding why this would be opt-in, instead of the default?

I also don't understand how it's different from the existing bug in bugzilla.

[matgb]

I'm not aware of a bug in bugzilla for it, if so must've missed it on search, what should I have searched for?

And actually opt in possibly not necessary, except many people don't use or ever edit their crosspost text (so you see the default which IIRC didn't change when the #comments option was enabled), etc. I don't actually, personally, have a reason to not make it default behaviour, it's just my normal caution about my preference for everything to be open not being the site norm.

[zvi]

Add comment image to RSS feed. I assumed that the comment count image would link to the comments, so I guess you theoretically could satisfy that bug without adding a reply link, but it would be ... weird.

[matgb]

Ah, yes. This suggestion is similar enough to that that it's actually superflous, but has enough extra in it it's probably worth that I did it, although I wouldn't have if I'd seen that. Regardless, it's a good plan to get something there, and I think having some extra text would help solve a few UI problems on other sites.