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dw_suggestions2010-08-20 02:38 pm
Delete All Entries/Comments Upon Journal Deletion
Title:
Delete All Entries/Comments Upon Journal Deletion
Area:
Accounts, Entries
Summary:
Livejournal now features a ( delete all comments and posts ) option when a user chooses to delete their journal from Account Settings. It would be nice to see this option implemented on Dreamwidth.
Description:
On Dreamwidth, when users select to delete a non-community account, they should be given the option to delete all comments and community posts site-wide. Upon selection, the entries and comments are immediately removed from view, but I assume they're not fully removed from the database until the account is purged to prevent abuse in hacking/account theft incidences.
This feature has recently been implemented on Livejournal, and it's beneficial for several reasons.
1) It clears the servers of unneeded data once the journal is purged.
2) For privacy reasons, it gives users another option to effortlessly delete their content without affecting the content of another user, and without having to track down every entry and comment across the entirety of the site.
This suggestion:
Should be implemented as-is.
20 (28.2%)
Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
6 (8.5%)
Shouldn't be implemented.
34 (47.9%)
(I have no opinion)
10 (14.1%)
(Other: please comment)
1 (1.4%)
Updates
Expressed concerns:
- It presents the option to someone who otherwise might not be looking for it.
- It interferes with conversation across the site, leaving conversations disjointed.
Not implemented :
- [Suggestion] The ability to search for every post you have made to a community without entering the community directly - something similar to the Recent Comments/Latest Posted Comments page.
- [Suggestion][Suggested by Others] The ability to mass Orphan Comments/Entries posted outside of your own journals/communities, which detaches your identity to the content. I'm not sure how this would work, but someone else would have to suggest this.
- [Suggestion][Suggested by Others] If a mass delete button were to be put in place, then textbox or checkbox capability for excluding certain journals and communities from the deletion of comments/entries.
On http://www.dreamwidth.org/editjournal :
- [Suggestion] A delete button with confirmation for [Delete this Entry].
- [Suggestion] Perhaps the option to mass delete would be located on this page, separate from the Delete Journal confirmation page to avoid clicking the option without fully reading over it and considering its consequences.
On http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/recent_comments :
- [Bug] A clearer visual of comments that are already deleted with grayed out text, or the [delete] changed to [deleted]. (Found on Bugzilla)
- [Suggestion] The ability to go back through all comments ever posted (at present, the max is your 150 most recent comments). Or an ability to hide or separate deleted comments so that the list will keep expanding. (Found on Bugzilla)
Am I missing anything?
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instead of responding to your reply to me above, I will just say here: personally, I did get your meaning. I object to the idea of any user being able to affect such a massive change across any number of journals and communities, including my own, just because they're choosing to delete their own account.
But say, for instance, I am a part of a community. I post a story to it, and later I am locked out of the community. I am unable to delete my content from it, because I no longer have access to see the entry.
I'm not sure mass deletion across the site as a whole is a suitable response to this sort of thing. such a situation would seem to call for a more specific feature, such as the ability to always see/control one's own posts even in a community where one has since has access restricted.
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Because this is just a mass version of that should the person choose to leave the site. At any time, a person could delete their own content - on your journal or not. That's just the thing. Most disagreements simply don't want the person to delete their content, but you have no control over another person's account.
The other option aside from deletion that I see would be to do some kind of administration level screening, but the exact same thing would happen, except the portion where the content is deleted, and if they're deleting their journal - that's often what they want to happen.
That would be a nice feature indeed. It would be hard to track.
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no, that's not what I'm saying at all. I like having the current ability to delete my journal and to more or less have control over the comments I make elsewhere. but I do not want users to have an easy option to delete all of the comments they make outside of their own journal. it makes me very nervous, because having the ability to do something that will affect potentially thousands of conversations sitewide in one or two clicks isn't just about having the ability to do so; it says that this is an expected user behavior and I think there would be plenty of people who would end up using it when the option wouldn't have even occurred to them otherwise. yes, I want people to have to come to my journal and manually delete the comments they have made in it if they feel that strongly about it.
reading your other comments, it occurs to me that having a way of accessing a complete history of one's comments and posts to communities (in other words, a much more comprehensive comment management page) might be a good compromise. I have no idea how feasible it is, but I don't think your suggestion would be much less taxing on the servers? (seriously, if I were to delete all of the LJ comments I've made over the years that could be a... large undertaking, to put it mildly.) I just wouldn't want any bulk editing feature on it. ;)
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I could see that it could be abused by people who want to just delete their journal for a few days in a fit, definitely. There is that vacation feature that's in the works though.
I wouldn't mind it being in the account section rather than on the deletion page, as even a separate step. I would go looking for the ability, and if others really wanted it, I'm sure they would too. I just wouldn't want to hide it outside of those two areas.
Would you prefer something like that to be placed in your Account Settings, rather than on the Deletion confirmation page?