Preserve cuts on RSS feeds / auto-cut RSS feeds on Reading page

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Title:
Preserve cuts on RSS feeds / auto-cut RSS feeds on Reading page

Area:
Reading page - cuts

Summary:
RSS feeds on a DW Reading page should respect the LJ text cut or "Read more" cut of the source posting. If this is not technically feasible, long posts should be auto-cut (or you should have the option of your reading page having an auto cut).

Description:
When my DW Reading page loads an RSS feed I've subscribed to, it loads the entire thing, even though the original blog/journal post had a cut. Some feeds, this is no big deal—posts are short. But if someone is subscribed to the RSS feed of a fic community on LJ, or to another lengthy source (538, I'm just sayin'), the Reading page can get looong.

Is it even technically possible to get cuts to come in with RSS? (Because with the new little AJAX triangle? That would be beyond awesome!)

If there's no way to do it with RSS, then I think azurelunatic's suggestion for auto-cuts (http://dw-suggestions.dreamwidth.org/298397.html) would be the second best option.

Poll #3368 Preserve cuts on RSS feeds / auto-cut RSS feeds on Reading page

Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 56

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Should be implemented as-is.
30 (53.6%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
8 (14.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (5.4%)

(I have no opinion)
15 (26.8%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Comments

[aedifica]

Oh hell yes. My ongoing peeve with tor.com's feed is they push the whole text of each article to the feed, even though if you read it on the actual site you get cut tags. (They claim it's a feature, not a bug, and they won't change it. I disagree, so I use the neat little Firefox add-in that lets me collapse whole entries I don't want to clutter up my reading page.)

I'd definitely want it to be an opt-in thing, though.

[ariestess]

I'll second the opt-in feature.

[zeborah]

(I agree with them that it's a feature - I preload my feedreader and my DW reading page before going on the bus each morning, and I expect to be able to read the whole item while I'm on the bus, not to suddenly get a "Click to read more" link which I can't follow because I'm on the bus and have no internet until I'm at work and can't read recreationally until lunchtime, by which time I've forgotten about it anyway. So when I get such a link, 99% of the time even if it's my best friend I'll never read the rest of the article.)

Opt-in is good.

[torachan]

I also agree it's a feature. I really dislike feeds that make me click over to the website to read them. (Not because I don't have internet, but just because I don't like having to open multiple tabs.)

[allchildren]

GOD yes.

[cheyinka]

If the original feed had a cut of some sort, then that should be respected over here, but if it doesn't, even if the entry's extremely long it shouldn't be cut by default.

[kyrielle]

This. Or make it an option to collapse on one's reading page (display/viewing option, not feed/data option).

[instantramen]

Yes plz to having the option to auto-cut.

[aithine]

+1 with the option to honor or ignore cuts

It's only possible to preserve the cuts if the HTML isn't stripped on the RSS feed. Looking quickly at an LJ RSS feed of an entry that has several cuts, the HTML's there for the cuts, they've just been sanitized (as they're supposed to be) for the XML feed, so it would probably be a matter of writing a bit that'll de-URL-encode the cuts to display them.

[delladea]

I would love to have an option to cut non-LJ feeds automatically beyond a certain length. Honoring existing tags if possible would be awesome

This functionality should definitely be opt-in.

[sheelal]

+1, as long as it can be switched off by the user somehow, if desired. (I wouldn't, but I can imagine some people would want to.)

[thorfinn]

The options need to also be available to the subscriber.

I want no cuts in my RSS feeds, ever, whether there are some in the original or not.

The default behaviour for a default RSS feed should be to observe cuts in the same way as if reading the website feed though.

[noracharles]

Full text feeds are a feature, not a bug to me :-)

But I think it would be nice to have an opt-in option to respect cuts, or to make css cuts easier for people who aren't confident using css.

(Again, thank you to this comm and dw_nifty for all your help with css.)

[matgb]

This.

I used to prefer feeds that cut, now I much prefer full feeds, I'm much more likely to go visit an original post to comment if the full feed is there.

Having a very easy CSS hiding of long posts would be good though, I'd definitely want to load the whole thing, but allowing it to be truncated for display would be useful for those that seem to dislike hitting the page down/space bar.