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boosette ([personal profile] boosette) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2010-04-14 10:47 am

?style=site on navbar?

Title:
?style=site on navbar?

Area:
Navbar

Summary:
I think it would be neat to include site style with the "Reload page in: my style light style" on the navbar.

Description:
I've gone to reload the page in site style from the navbar ... lots ... of times, and while my intuition says it should be there: it's not. The link would be small and unobtrusive, though it might crowd the bar on smaller screens.

Poll #2745 ?style=site on navbar?
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 42


This suggestion:

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Should be implemented as-is.
19 (45.2%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
7 (16.7%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
6 (14.3%)

(I have no opinion)
10 (23.8%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

ratcreature: RatCreature's toon avatar (Default)

[personal profile] ratcreature 2010-04-15 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
My reading page already has a horizontal scrollbar because the navbar doesn't fit completely. There is no room for more. I mean, I guess you could squeeze it in below the search box next to the other links, but I would need to scroll horizontally to see it, just like I need to do for the "Go" button of the search box, so it would be pointless. I like the site style too, so I just set it as my style for journal pages, and can use the my style option. I think that is enough.
yvi: Kaylee half-smiling, looking very pretty (Default)

[personal profile] yvi 2010-04-15 07:54 am (UTC)(link)
As for getting more options: We might want to change this into a drop-down with:

my
light
site

style, just as the reading filters are a drop-down menu right now.

[personal profile] pale_moonlite 2010-04-15 08:43 am (UTC)(link)
+1
denise: Image: Me, facing away from camera, on top of the Castel Sant'Angelo in Rome (Default)

[staff profile] denise 2010-04-15 09:49 am (UTC)(link)
disadvantage there, no longer be 1 click.
yvi: Kaylee half-smiling, looking very pretty (Default)

[personal profile] yvi 2010-04-15 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm, okay.

Well, the added link wouldn't make the navbar any wider anyway, from what I can see. The 'limiting' factor in that section seems to be the search box.

Alternatively: Reload page in: [my] [light] [site] style? But that's probably bad for accessibility because the link doesn't fully say what it's for...
eruthros: Martha Jones smiling! (DW - Martha Jones is awesome)

[personal profile] eruthros 2010-04-15 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That's true for my view of the navbar as well -- it looks like there'd be room for "site scheme" under the search box without making the navbar any wider.

I really like this idea, because I have also had the impulse to use a site scheme button on the navbar and then been surprised when it's not there!
zvi: self-portrait: short, fat, black dyke in bunny slippers (Default)

[personal profile] zvi 2010-04-15 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The room available is a variable dependent on font size/magnification. For people with large fonts, there isn't more room.
snakeling: Statue of the Minoan Snake Goddess (Default)

[personal profile] snakeling 2010-04-15 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Could we memorise the last option? That way, if someone always use the same option, it's still one-click.
kyrielle: Middle-aged woman in profile, black and white, looking left, with a scarf around her neck and a white background (Default)

[personal profile] kyrielle 2010-04-16 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I like this, if it's going to be done.
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[personal profile] jeeps 2010-04-16 10:16 am (UTC)(link)
+1
justhuman: (bunny2)

[personal profile] justhuman 2010-04-15 11:21 am (UTC)(link)
I like the idea of adding all

mine
light
site
oh and "natural", meaning the original style of the page

But seeing Denise's comment, perhaps they could be iconized to be the size of the DW body in a user name to take up less room and be one click
noracharles: (Default)

[personal profile] noracharles 2010-04-15 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want tiny icons for that. I need my style to be able to read other journals, and I want a single click link which is large enough to be easy to hit.

I don't care about reading filters being a drop down menu, because I can use bookmarks to go to my own filtered reading page, but I depend on the link to my style on the menu bar.
susanreads: my avatar, a white woman with brown hair and glasses (Default)

[personal profile] susanreads 2010-04-15 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd like to have the 3 of those 4 that it's not in at the time, but that end of the navbar would need to be redesigned to make room on narrower screens. I don't think small icons is a good idea for this (I have enough trouble recognising the icons used in some styles for Reply, Edit etc.)

[personal profile] feathertail 2010-04-16 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Is the light style only there for accessibility purposes? Because it seems to be more or less raw HTML ...

Perhaps the site style could just replace the light style, instead of becoming a third option? I don't know what the light style is there for, but perhaps we could make it unnecessary somehow ...
yvi: Kaylee half-smiling, looking very pretty (Default)

[personal profile] yvi 2010-04-16 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
The light style is actually one of the site schemes: Lynx. And yes, it's among other things for accessibility reasons, as I understand it (apart from visual and screenreader accessibility it's also very convenient for older browsers).
turlough: castle on mountain top in winter, Burg Hohenzollern ((dw) dreaming of music)

[personal profile] turlough 2010-04-16 01:09 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who uses light style extensively both for reading fic and meta I definitely wouldn't want it replaced with the site style. When I'm reading I don't want anything cluttering up the page so the header bar and footer of the site style is very distracting. (As is the navbar which I in consequence never use.) The site style also uses a different font family and font size than the one I consider optimal for reading large amounts of text.

[personal profile] feathertail 2010-04-16 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that you wouldn't want the light style removed! If you don't use the navbar, though, I'm not sure how removing the link from it would affect you. ~.^

How about just keep it so that the light style is on for everyone who selects Lynx, and change the link on the navbar to "site style?" It may be that other people who like the light style as much as you do already have it turned on for everything, whereas people who just want to make a loud theme more legible are probably hoping to read a page in the site style. I personally find it more legible (I actually thought that that's what the navbar meant by "light style"), and if it has accessibility issues maybe we could just fix them?
turlough: small candle in Christmas tree ((jul) peace and quiet)

[personal profile] turlough 2010-04-16 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I don't care about the navbar at all, that's why I voted for "No opinion" :-) I really think that the light style needs to remain as an alternative and not be merged with the site style though. I use Tropo Red as site style, it's got dropdown menues for everything I need when I'm navigating site pages like notifications management and settings. Lynx isn't really a working alternative to that at all, but when I'm reading long texts the light style is indispensable.

[personal profile] feathertail 2010-04-16 07:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. Hm ...

[personal profile] feathertail 2010-04-16 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I submitted a suggestion that the "Light style" link be replaced with a "Site style" link before you posted this. Sorry. >.> Maybe it's not such a good idea after all, or maybe there's a way that you can be accomodated also.