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ѕтαяgαzєяє∂ ([personal profile] stargazered) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2015-11-04 09:38 am

Optional "Re-Posting" to add on to current "Share This Entry"

Title:
Optional "Re-Posting" to add on to current "Share This Entry"

Area:
Share This Entry

Summary:
A re-posting option (that can be turned on or off, so up to the poster) that allows posts to be shared and appear in journals and reading pages like re-tweeting: redirects to the original post (so original poster still controls it)

Description:
The "Share this entry" of Dreamwidth is reaching a point where it's lacking, as it depends only on email and nothing else! Keeping what it has now (emailing), more options should be added. Like Re-Postng, only if the account or community turns this option on. This can be like Retweeting or Replurking: It appears the journal (thus counted as an update) and consequently the reading page of those subscribed to that journal, but it shows the original post and redirects you to it once clicked.

I believe Facebook has something like this, where "(user) shared -> (details here)" and it's the original.

Therefore the original poster still has all power of their post, should they want to edit or delete it. The problem with sites like Tumblr is that reblogging makes it an entirely new and separate post, so the original poster loses control of it (like if they wanted to delete or edit, they cannot because it will still circulate around, even when they delete their accounts). This will help with the exposure of many posts that can welcome plenty of discussion with this already excellent commenting system.

Also, not everyone wants their posts to be reposted in such a manner, even if their account is primarily public, because of personal and privacy reasons. The option to turn it on and off will be required (including whole communities to have the option to turn it on and off, since some communities are personal?)

Reposting also should not be an option for locked posts, obviously for privacy reasons.

Also if possible, individual posts can have the option to be reposted, like how currently some posts can have specific levels of content ratings.

As for a count of how many times it's been reposted, I'm not sure if that is required, but it seems to be consistent with most places that allow this form of sharing, so maybe on or off?

Dreamwidth's always been wonderful in keeping good privacy options, good flexibility when it comes to filters and keeping power to the poster. So if it has a sharing option like this, it should have one that upholds its ideals while still giving us that option to spread posts around. At the moment, the ideas and points I have suggested keep the reposting of Dreamwidth posts to just other Dreamwidth accounts, just to keep this simple first.

Poll #18013 Optional "Re-Posting" to add on to current "Share This Entry"
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 50


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Should be implemented as-is.
14 (28.0%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
17 (34.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
15 (30.0%)

(I have no opinion)
3 (6.0%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (2.0%)

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[staff profile] denise 2017-02-20 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
(Please note, this is an older entry let out of the suggestions queue very belatedly.)

Reblogging/reposting other people's posts is one of those Perpetual Suggestions that people feel very strongly about, and I tend to reject them from the queue because the discussion inevitably turns into "letting people reblog my posts would be terrible and awful and you're bad for wanting to do it" vs "letting people reblog my posts is the best way for me to find new readers and you're bad for not wanting to let me do it". I let this one through because it's different enough from past suggestions that I think it's worth having the discussion again, but it is a hotbutton issue and many people feel very strongly that reblogging is a massive privacy violation.

Things I don't want this discussion to focus on: how a reblogging/reposting/etc feature would be terrible and awful and nobody should ever want it

Things I do want this discussion to focus on: if you want a reblogging/reposting/etc feature, how you'd want it to work; if you don't like the idea of a reblogging/reposting/etc feature, how you would want it to behave so that you can comfortably ignore it.
Edited 2017-02-20 20:02 (UTC)

[personal profile] qvb 2017-02-20 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi Denise,

thank you for looking into it.

>>>if you want a reblogging/reposting/etc feature, how you'd want it to work

I kind of like the way how it works in LJ - with single click it creates new post draft (which I can edit, e.g. add my own thoughts/comments), and the system has basic markup allowing to mark reposts as such.

Ideally would be to have it working on both posts originally created in DW, and on posts coming in via RSS feed (e.g. from LJ).

I understand that not everybody would want to have this feature. Is there any way to make it part of a Style? (e.g. as a JavaScript in the style)
It would enable users who want to have repost feature to use it, while users who don't want this feature can just choose different style.

With best regards
qvb.dreamwidth.org
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[personal profile] kyrielle 2017-02-21 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I like the way this suggestion approaches it, despite not wanting re-posting of my stuff. Optional to the journal owner on a per-journal or per-entry basis, public entries only, especially if it's opt-in, is kind of my favorite approach.

That said...it runs the risk of option fatigue and being an Often Undiscovered Feature if it's opt-in. But opt-out is not my ideal, so...yeah.

I don't know if it's a good idea, but it's a not-bad-to-me idea.

(If it *was* going to be added, options to share on other media like Twitter might also be something some people would like, but...that complicates it again. I'm not sure it needs complication.)
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[personal profile] kaberett 2017-02-21 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Re option fatigue/undiscovered/etc: one way to make it work might be to have a "make this post shareable" checkbox next to the Crosspost This Entry checkbox on the Create Entries page, that gets automatically greyed out for security levels other than public. For example. (This would probably mean that unit would need retitling, but it seems to me like the place it would go...)