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sᴛᴏʀᴍʏ ([personal profile] stormy) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2010-08-20 02:38 pm

Delete All Entries/Comments Upon Journal Deletion

Title:
Delete All Entries/Comments Upon Journal Deletion

Area:
Accounts, Entries

Summary:
Livejournal now features a ( delete all comments and posts ) option when a user chooses to delete their journal from Account Settings. It would be nice to see this option implemented on Dreamwidth.

Description:
On Dreamwidth, when users select to delete a non-community account, they should be given the option to delete all comments and community posts site-wide. Upon selection, the entries and comments are immediately removed from view, but I assume they're not fully removed from the database until the account is purged to prevent abuse in hacking/account theft incidences.

This feature has recently been implemented on Livejournal, and it's beneficial for several reasons.

1) It clears the servers of unneeded data once the journal is purged.

2) For privacy reasons, it gives users another option to effortlessly delete their content without affecting the content of another user, and without having to track down every entry and comment across the entirety of the site.

Poll #4241 Delete All Entries/Comments Upon Journal Deletion
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 71


This suggestion:

View Answers

Should be implemented as-is.
20 (28.2%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
6 (8.5%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
34 (47.9%)

(I have no opinion)
10 (14.1%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (1.4%)





Updates



Expressed concerns:

  • It presents the option to someone who otherwise might not be looking for it.
  • It interferes with conversation across the site, leaving conversations disjointed.


Not implemented :
  • [Suggestion] The ability to search for every post you have made to a community without entering the community directly - something similar to the Recent Comments/Latest Posted Comments page.
  • [Suggestion][Suggested by Others] The ability to mass Orphan Comments/Entries posted outside of your own journals/communities, which detaches your identity to the content. I'm not sure how this would work, but someone else would have to suggest this.
  • [Suggestion][Suggested by Others] If a mass delete button were to be put in place, then textbox or checkbox capability for excluding certain journals and communities from the deletion of comments/entries.


On http://www.dreamwidth.org/editjournal :
  • [Suggestion] A delete button with confirmation for [Delete this Entry].
  • [Suggestion] Perhaps the option to mass delete would be located on this page, separate from the Delete Journal confirmation page to avoid clicking the option without fully reading over it and considering its consequences.


On http://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/recent_comments :
  • [Bug] A clearer visual of comments that are already deleted with grayed out text, or the [delete] changed to [deleted]. (Found on Bugzilla)
  • [Suggestion] The ability to go back through all comments ever posted (at present, the max is your 150 most recent comments). Or an ability to hide or separate deleted comments so that the list will keep expanding. (Found on Bugzilla)


Am I missing anything?
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[personal profile] musyc 2010-09-02 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Eugh. I hated the introduction of this feature on LJ and I really dislike the idea of it coming here.

Bandwidth and data storage is a minuscule consideration because text really doesn't take up that much space.

effortlessly delete their content without affecting the content of another user

Except by deleting comments, you are affecting the content. You're affecting the conversation, the context, the evidence. Without the comments from the other party involved in a thread, the thread itself is useless, leaving behind random things without the sense of why. It's like watching a conversation through a plate glass window - you know they're talking, but what the hell about? Something crucial to understanding of why this situation occurred needs to remain.

I have no problem with deleted accounts 'orphaning' their comments without connection to a user, but I am seriously against removing them from the entire service because it does affect more than one person.
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[personal profile] melannen 2010-09-03 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
This.

The comments on my journal entries are part of what makes up the entries; often, responses to the comments are a significant part of the content *I* write. I don't want it to be easy for someone in a snit (or just someone who's gotten tired of journaling) to remove content, which might be very important for context, from my journal.

The same thing can apply, to a lesser extent, to posts in communities, because people post in communities under the assumption that it's a shared space, and all the posts in a community make up a conversation that doesn't belong to any single poster.

I would be okay with an "orphaning" option.

I might even support the idea of making a complete delete of all comments a posts a possibility, but make it something difficult to find - make sure someone would have to really, really want it in order to figure out how to do it, in order to keep people from lightly picking the delete-all option without thinking about how it might affect conversations.
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[personal profile] jeeps 2010-09-03 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I really don't like the original suggestion, but if it is implemented I agree very wholeheartedly with your last paragraph.
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[personal profile] triadruid 2010-09-10 03:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. That sounds like either security through obscurity, or holding user data hostage.