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elusiveat ([personal profile] elusiveat) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2009-11-11 11:52 pm

html and OpenID

html and OpenID


I think you're going to develop a more receptive user base if you give OpenID folks the ability to use html in comments.

I recently had some OpenID folks expressing unhappiness with their inability to use html in a thread in my journal. I've already met with quite a bit of resistance to my decision to switch to dreamwidth from livejournal, and I suspect that others are meeting with similar resistance. I don't know whether OpenID is handled differently when posting to paid accounts (I do have a second account that is paid but have not done much with it so far). I think that at minimum you should try to fix this for paid account users, but will do best to elliminate the problem entirely.

Here's the thread: http://elusiveat.dreamwidth.org/325169.html?thread=1730609#cmt1730609

Note: I chose not to report this as a bug because I don't know whether it was a deliberate design decision.

Poll #1690 html and OpenID
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 42

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Should be implemented as-is.
13 (31.0%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
15 (35.7%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
11 (26.2%)

(I have no opinion)
2 (4.8%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (2.4%)

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[identity profile] zvilikestv.net 2009-11-12 05:04 am (UTC)(link)
I am pretty sure that not posting html only extends to hyperlinks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperlink).

the point is to deter spammers
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2009-11-12 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
I could have sworn e-mail validated OpenIDs could link.

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[personal profile] pseudomonas 2009-11-12 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
From my personal POV, I'd like OpenID accounts on my access list to have hyperlink-posting rights on comments to my posts. Otherwise it really looks like they're second-class-citizens.
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[personal profile] zooey_glass 2009-11-12 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
It seems like a large portion of this is actually expectation control. I didn't know OpenIDs couldn't post links, but the second that [personal profile] zvi said it was an anti-spam measure, that made perfect sense. Maybe it could be made so that when you selected post as OpenID the list of allowed HTML said 'links will be stripped' with a little link to an explanation of why. I'm guessing that many people use links more than anything else and so assume when their link is stgripped that all HTML will be (that seems to have been the case for the OP's friends).

If there's a way of allowing validated OpenID accounts more privileges without inviting spam, that would probably also be a goodwil gesture. Although I have to say, at a certain point I think we (DW lovers) have to just accept that there will be a level of hostility no matter what. I think DW has made a big effort to make the site welcoming for people without accounts, but at the end of the day there has to be some point to having an account!
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[personal profile] instantramen 2009-11-12 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm all for giving validated OpenID users the ability to post coded links, but I find myself agreeing with the arguments against allowing it across the board.
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[personal profile] owlmoose 2010-01-30 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
I see this is an old discussion, so I don't know if anything is likely to change, but I think this is important. Validated OpenID accounts should *absolutely* be able to include links and other simple HTML in comments. When I first started here, I only had a validated OpenID account, and all the documentation set the expectation that my experience would be exactly like a regular journal account in every way except for the ability to write posts. How can that be true if an OpenID account can't post links?

I understand the concern about opening the door further to spammers, but how many spammers will bother to validate their account? Treating validated OpenID accounts as no better than spammers is the opposite of welcoming.

I strongly suggest that you rethink this decision. Thanks.