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MM Writes ([personal profile] marahmarie) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2012-09-26 12:41 am

Add the ability for logged-in users to visibly sort the Tags Page by access level.

Add the ability for logged-in users to visibly sort the Tags Page by access level.


There is currently a hidden feature on the Visible Tags Page: the ability to show the approximate access-level assigned to each tag. I would like DW to add CSS or a combination of JavaScript and CSS to all our journals to show the hidden feature to everyone who opts-in.

Currently the Visible Tags page shows all your tags in a single, alphabetically sorted list but does not *visibly* indicate which tags are used on private, access-list-only or public posts. So one day about a year ago I asked myself, "Why not?" and wound up writing CSS that exposed the access-level of all my private and access-list-only posts. This became a fantastic sorting system since I have no other way to tell what I've thrown where without using the Manage Tags page, which can be kind of awkward and time-consuming.

So a week ago I took this a little further and refined the CSS so that 1) only logged-in users see the access-levels alongside each tag and 2) logged-in users see the exact access level used on each tag - public, private, or access-list-only. Here's a screen cap of my current Visible Tags page using my latest CSS for it (logged-in view - logged-out you won't see any of the extra information shown in this screen cap):

What I'm humbly hoping for is this system of sorting tags by access-level, as seen in the screen cap, gets adapted site-wide either as the default view on the Visible Tags page (of course, it will be visible to logged-in users by access-level only) or else becomes an opt-in default option (which is where JavaScript would probably come into play; otherwise, this is a pure CSS hack).

There are a few possible issues with adapting this styling: 1) it may take more firepower to serve up the additional CSS (but I'm thinking it would not be enough to crash servers or do anything that dramatic as things stand; it's just hard to calculate how much this might slow things down without knowing how much firepower DW has to spare) and 2) there is currently an issue where if you use a tag at more than one access level (say you use your "cats" tag both publicly and on several access-list-only posts) it will get an HTML tag indicating it's for public use only, which means DW won't be able to style it with the specific CSS to reflect that you used it three times publicly and three times for access list readers. Until that split-usage quirk is fixed, my idea makes for an imprecise-at-best look at how your tags are being used. But I think it's still better than not having any sorting system in place at all; in the meantime you can still use your Manage Tags page to drill down more precisely.

If this were to get adopted, I could see future improvements to it such as sorting tags by access level on the Visible Tags Page instead of sorting them entirely alphabetically as we do now, adding the ability to style each access level separately, and so on.

Poll #11751 Add the ability for logged-in users to visibly sort the Tags Page by access level.
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Should be implemented as-is.
15 (31.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
0 (0.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (6.4%)

(I have no opinion)
28 (59.6%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (2.1%)

[personal profile] swaldman 2012-09-28 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Note that it's already possible for somebody to use CSS or a style layer to do this (as Marahmarie has done) - but it's probably a minority of users who have the knowhow to do it themselves.

I think that there are two seperate questions here:

1. Should the visibility level of tags be shown by default (as suggested)
2. Should there be a UI option to vary this default

I have no strong opinion on (1), and a minor aversion to (2).

It seems like something that would sit really nicely in some sort of gallery of style layers that just change individual things ("snippets"), that people could contribute to and others could use... that's way outside scope, though, and I've no idea whether there's a plan for such a thing :-)
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[personal profile] mokie 2012-09-29 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
This is what awaits me when I open the tag page on my LJ, and I miss it on other sites.

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[personal profile] cesy 2012-09-29 05:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure exactly what I want, but having some of this information more easily visible would be good, so long as it doesn't reveal anything that's not already available to the person in question.
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[personal profile] ciaan 2012-11-30 03:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I'm against the idea of anyone but me seeing what access levels are assigned to my tags. But giving more detailed info to me, that I am for.