[personal profile] julysnowed

Title:
Reconsidering the Ability to Delete All Entries/Comments Associated With an Account Upon Deletion

Area:
accounts, entries, comments

Summary:
With the dramatic increase in recent years in both online and real-world harassment, I would like to consider revisiting the 2010 suggestion to give users the option to delete all entries/comments associated with an account upon account deletion.

Description:
The last time this suggestion was raised was in 2010, and it was rejected then. However, I think it's long past time to revisit the possibility of being able to delete all entries and comments associated with an account upon account deletion.

There are a lot of reasons people delete accounts. Sometimes those reasons are just a lack of time or interest, and that's okay. But sometimes those reasons get a lot more serious. We over-share sometimes. The people we meet online become friends, and we get lax about sharing personal information that perhaps shouldn't be shared in public internet spaces. Most of the time that never becomes a problem--most of the people we meet online are great. But sometimes the people who have access to your entries/posts/comments aren't great, and that can have repercussions irl just as easily as it can have repercussions online. The last few years have seen a dramatic uptick in everything from revenge porn to death threats to hacked accounts, and while stalking and real-world harassment are rare, they happen, and they're happening with increasing frequency. They happen often enough that (as of the time of this writing) a tumblr post about tips for how to disappear from the internet has over 760,000 notes.

Right now, Dreamwidth allows its users to delete comments manually, and to see the last 100/150 comments posted on paid/premium accounts, but many of us have posted thousands of comments over several years, and trying to find every single comment and offhand remark ever posted is an endeavor that's anxiety-inducing at best and impossible at worst. Giving users an option to automatically delete every post/comment they've ever made, even those made on outside communities or journals, would alleviate that burden entirely.

The biggest concern with this suggestion-and the concern that I saw raised most often on the 2010 post--was that it would inevitably leave conversations broken. There are ways to mitigate that: a suggestion I saw raised in the 2010 post was to add an "orphan all comments" feature in addition to a "delete all comments" feature. AO3 currently has a popular analogous option for those who want to remove their association with their fanworks without deleting them entirely. A quick review of several LiveJournal posts will also show that broken threads are in the minority, so we may not have to worry about that too much. Even if they weren't in the minority, though, it would still be a necessary evil; our conversations are important, but I don't feel that they should be more important than the safety of our users.

Poll #18021 Reconsidering the Ability to Delete All Entries/Comments Associated With an Account Upon Deletion
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 43


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Should be implemented as-is.
11 (25.6%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
10 (23.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
12 (27.9%)

(I have no opinion)
9 (20.9%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (2.3%)

piscinarii: (Default)
[personal profile] piscinarii

Title:
"Vacation" option for journals.

Area:
account settings

Summary:
Enable an option on the accounts settings page for a "vacation" mode in the active/deleted section.

Description:
In the latest news post it was announced that deleted account purging will begin in January. A journal that has been deleted for over 30 days enters the purging queue. Journals that have been purged are extremely difficult to recover. People sometimes delete their journals when they take a break from the internet and then revert them back to active status at a later date.

For example: I have deleted my journal in the past while studying for finals because my journal was a daily distraction. However, I needed to revert back to active status before 30 days had passed to prevent my journal contents from being purged from the servers. If I had forgotten, become distracted with other life events, etc. and not reactivated my journal the contents would have been deleted from the servers.

I suggest that the third option "vacation" (or some other applicable wording) be added to the active/deleted section of the account management page. This would help prevent accidental deletion of accounts.

Implementation could be as simple as the current "30 days before entering the deletion queue, unless reactivated" but instead be "30 days before automatic reactivation, unless manually reactivated" or "XX days before automatic reactivation" with the number specified by the account owner.

It could be completely open, allowing the account owner to come back at any time to reactivate early, or a lockout where the time would have to run through completely before posting to journal/reading subscriptions/editing of profile/etc was enabled again. If a lockout is enabled, it should only prevent any use of or modifications to the account, not prevent the account owner from logging in. I see both of those options as useful for different personalities.

I think options for handling the displayed contents of the journal while in vacation mode should be offered. The journal can be left in "read only" mode, so subscribers can still read the contents but no new posts will be made to the journal OR the option of removing the journal from display and instead placing an account owner generated "this is why I'm gone" blurb or a site generated "user is on vacation" note.

If the time is specified by the account owner, and the option of complete lockout is enabled, there would have to be an alternate way to reactivate the account early by some other process. For example, I accidentally locked myself out for "100 days" rather than "10 days". Perhaps a verification e-mail similar to the "verify your e-mail address/verify your account creation" for "verify vacation time for XX days from Month Day Year to Future Month Day Year" could prevent most mistakes. Maybe also a link to submit a support request to have the lockout reversed.

Paid time will not be paused or saved by going into vacation mode. The paid time expiration date will remain the same. During the vacation period the account will be removed from the pool of users that can receive paid time through the "gift a random account" in the Dreamwidth shop and paid time purchased for the account outright will not be applied until after the account become active again.

Something like this could be offered in tiers for free/paid users. For example:

Basic Tier: predetermined drop down menu of times (7 days, 14 days, 30 days), open to reactivation at any time by account owner, generic "user is on vacation" blurb.
Paid Tier: dropdown menu with previous times PLUS other (please specify) field, reactivation at any time or lockout option, option of read only mode, generic blurb, or user written blurb.

That way all users have access to the functionality of this option.

The main drawbacks I see are deciding how in depth to make this option and how complicated I imaging the coding for it would be, as well as deciding how best to offer this option to free/paid users. Hopefully I covered most of the main points.

Poll #1923 "Vacation" option for journals.
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 48


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Should be implemented as-is.
26 (54.2%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
4 (8.3%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
6 (12.5%)

(I have no opinion)
9 (18.8%)

(Other: please comment)
3 (6.2%)

kaigou: this is what I do, darling (Default)
[personal profile] kaigou

Title:
removing subs for deleted journals/comms

Area:
access, subscriptions

Summary:
When a journal or comm is deleted, its connections (subscriptions, access, etc) remain, and it continues to be listed (albeit struck-through) on other journals.

Description:

-- WITHDRAWN, PENDING REVISED SUGGESTION --

Poll #1684 removing subs for deleted journals/comms
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 22


This suggestion:

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Should be implemented as-is.
6 (27.3%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
3 (13.6%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
8 (36.4%)

(I have no opinion)
4 (18.2%)

(Other: please comment)
1 (4.5%)

cesy: "Cesy" - An old-fashioned quill and ink (Default)
[personal profile] cesy

Title:
More options when deleting accounts

Area:
account deletion

Summary:
Allow more options for the people who want to delete all their comments everywhere when deleting their journal, but still keep it safe if your account gets compromised.

Description:
(Original LJ Suggestion: http://community.livejournal.com/suggestions/737448.html)

(This is mostly taken from a comment there by Azurelunatic.)

It would be nice if account deletion were offered at several levels:

Standard (delete journal, show comments elsewhere and comm posts in full, but struck through; after purge if someone renamed to that account the old comments would show up as being by ex_exampleuser123.) (the current situation)

Invisible (delete journal, screen comments elsewhere and retroactively friends-lock community posts; would be handled otherwise like a standard deletion. Screened comments could be un-screened by the owner of the journal that they're in, but if what you're looking to do is go as private as possible, this might be a start. This would require a lot of work on LJ's end, but would be not a social disaster.)

Anonymized (delete journal, retain text of comments and posts elsewhere, but show it as belonging to "Deleted User" unless/until the user undeletes; on purge it would break the link between comment and user so there would be no need to create an ex_ username.) (this would be abused badly by trolls, who would create-post-and-delete to attain some measure of anonymity)

Full (delete journal, make comments and posts elsewhere disappear a la suspension)

All of these would come with the standard 30-day window to change the mind, thus protecting from malicious account takeovers.

Some of these would be server-intensive, so non-standard options could come with a fee or require a paid account.

Poll #1263 More options when deleting accounts
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 28


This suggestion:

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Should be implemented as-is.
5 (17.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
7 (25.0%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
8 (28.6%)

(I have no opinion)
8 (28.6%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

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