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thorfinn ([personal profile] thorfinn) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2010-06-28 06:47 pm

Crosspost to Facebook Notes

Title:
Crosspost to Facebook Notes

Area:
crossposting

Summary:
The crossposter sites option should have an option to "push" notes into facebook.com.

Description:
Facebook.com currently has a Notes feature. You can point it at a public RSS feed to import notes, but that fails to re-import edited notes.

I would prefer to "push" notes into facebook via the crossposter, so that edited notes show up correctly etc.

That may or may not be technically possible to do with facebook's note posting. I suspect it would require some reverse engineering of facebook page code etc.

There are complications around posting security - facebook does actually have the concept of custom posting security, and an extra "friends of friends" level.

Also I'm pretty sure there's no way to prevent comments on a note within facebook, so this option may be problematic.

Poll #3653 Crosspost to Facebook Notes
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 53


This suggestion:

View Answers

Should be implemented as-is.
14 (26.4%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
2 (3.8%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
20 (37.7%)

(I have no opinion)
17 (32.1%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

damned_colonial: Convicts in Sydney, being spoken to by a guard/soldier (Default)

[personal profile] damned_colonial 2010-06-29 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I voted "no".

1) I am not generally a fan of features which have more to do with external services/websites than DW itself. If people want those sorts of tools (for whatever external service, be it facebook or twitter or tumblr or...), I would prefer an improved API to let people build them outside of DW itself.

2) I dislike Facebook culture and the style of interaction that happens there. I fear that making it easy to crosspost to Facebook would result in lots of people coming here from Facebook and bringing Facebook social norms, which are at odds with the social norms I enjoy here on DW. (For instance, things I enjoy on DW include: lengthy, thoughtful posts and comments, a respect for pseudonymity, and the ability to segregate one's journalling from one's "real life").

3) I have serious reservations about Facebook's privacy, and am concerned that any attempt to implement this for anything other than public posts would be fraught with difficulty.
Edited 2010-06-29 03:55 (UTC)
damned_colonial: Convicts in Sydney, being spoken to by a guard/soldier (Default)

[personal profile] damned_colonial 2010-06-29 04:42 am (UTC)(link)
in re: 1), yeah, it's only LJ-codebase sites, because those ones map closely wrt settings and conceptual framework for posting, and also because there is such a high degree of crossover wrt culture and population. Not to mention coder familiarity -- adding non-LJ-like sites would mean learning and implementing a whole new framework each time, which seems like a lot of conceptual brainspace to be taking up in the DW codebase, you know? Whereas with LJ-like sites, that wasn't necessary, as the core concepts are already there.
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[personal profile] damned_colonial 2010-06-29 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
... except for the bit where it doesn't handle post security in a DW-like way, doesn't have comment settings, doesn't allow modifying the date...

All of which would have to be addressed *somehow*, in code and documentation and support and everywhere else, even if it's only greying out options or whatever. Which sounds like a huge pile of code-cruft to me.
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[staff profile] denise 2010-06-29 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
And the protocol was the same. We do want to implement the Metaweblog API, and whatever Wordpress and TypePad/MT use, etc, but that's down the line.
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[personal profile] matgb 2010-06-29 09:26 am (UTC)(link)
Was going to be my "with changes".

Allow crossposting to any site that has a functional API, that'd be grand.
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[personal profile] foxfirefey 2010-07-03 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I think [personal profile] thorfinn's suggestion is here mainly for technical advice and tweakings of the current already open bug for the concept. So, it's already been approved to implement, at least.