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ketsu ([personal profile] ketsu) wrote in [site community profile] dw_suggestions2013-12-18 08:24 pm

A way to easily copy and paste Create Entry setting preferences

Title:
A way to easily copy and paste Create Entry setting preferences

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Summary:
It would be nice if an option could be implemented, once the new Create Entries page is out of beta, to quickly and easily copy-and-paste one's setting preferences.

Description:
The new Create Entries page, which is currently in beta, has a lot of different options to customize the page to a user's liking. But for users who have multiple accounts, for RPing or other reasons, remembering those options and applying them the same way to several different accounts might be troublesome. I'm opted-in to the beta and I have the page set up in a way I like for this account, but when I switch to other accounts it's jarring because things aren't the same way. I could manually set them all up in the same way (and I probably will after I finish posting this suggestion, since it's on my mind now), but it would be nice to have a way to rapidly apply all of my preferences at once.

My suggestion is to have some sort of button you can click somewhere, maybe on one of the Manage Account tabs, to generate a textual list of your preferences that you can copy, and a textbox somewhere else on the same page where you can paste those preferences and automatically apply them. (Once you've logged into the account you want to apply them on, of course.) The list would read something like:

entry_field:column;show_panels:entry-link,tags,currents,journal,comment-settings;panel_arrangement:(some sort of... thing to indicate what order and location the panels are arranged in)

Obviously that's just garbage spewed out by someone who doesn't have the faintest clue how this stuff works, so I wouldn't expect it to look exactly (or even necessarily remotely) like that. But something along those lines!

It would also be nice for users who have a specific way they want their page layout to look, but feel like temporarily changing it either to see if there's another way they like better, or perhaps for Support troubleshooting; they could save their preferences and easily revert to them this way.

Poll #15505 A way to easily copy and paste Create Entry setting preferences
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 35


This suggestion:

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Should be implemented as-is.
8 (22.9%)

Should be implemented with changes. (please comment)
6 (17.1%)

Shouldn't be implemented.
3 (8.6%)

(I have no opinion)
18 (51.4%)

(Other: please comment)
0 (0.0%)

[personal profile] swaldman 2014-06-10 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Voting against because I think that this is functionality that would only be used by a small subset of users (those with multiple accounts), and even those users would only use it very rarely (possibly just once, or maybe if they changed their setup significantly).

Obviously I have nothing against functionality that isn't used very much, but I don't think that something used as much as the Create Entry page should be cluttered with it.
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[personal profile] matgb 2014-06-10 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't there a plan at some point to allow people to claim multiple accounts with one master account, thus letting you share settings between them &c? I'd prefer that if it's possible.
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[staff profile] denise 2014-06-10 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)

Eventually, yes, and still something I really want to do (especially for people like those poor RPers with dozens of accounts), but we haven't been able to get past the spec stage; every time we've tried to settle some of The Deep Questions of "okay, conceptually speaking, how would this work" the discussion falls apart pretty quickly. If it's going to happen, it's not likely to happen anytime soon unless somebody decides to make it Their Crusade to get it to spec and can identify some of the sticking points. (And then it will take a lot of coding and testing to actually do it, methinks.)

And a procedural note: generally speaking, when considering suggestions, don't let your thoughts on a particular small suggestion rest on whether that Big Project will get done or not done! That was a particular anti-pattern in LJ's suggestions comm -- someone would propose something tiny and useful, somebody else would come along and say "well, that would fit in better with [huge project]", tiny-suggestion would get tied to huge-project, and because the number of people who could do huge-project was very small and those people were very busy, huge-project would get delayed forever and tiny-suggestion would never happen. We almost certainly can't stop the huge projects getting delayed, since we are limited in our resources and there are enough huge projects to keep us busy for the next hundred years or so, but I try to be militant about not letting tiny-suggestion and huge-project get yoked together.

(If you generally would not support tiny-suggestion except as a subset of huge-project and would not want to see tiny-suggestion get implemented if huge-project didn't happen until 2114, that's fine, but I still try to call people on that when I see it happening!)

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[personal profile] matgb 2014-06-10 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Which is completely fair, and also why I asked the question—I wasn't sure if I was misremembering a hoped for feature as being planned, and also had no clue if it was in progress or on the list of things we'd love but aren't likely.

And yeah, incremental changes that make things a tiny bit better are things I generally approve of as long as they don't get specifically in the way of something else, so my vote is going to be with changes, the change being "it'd be grand if this can be combined in the Big Project but a separate solution to this is fine"

I mean, I only have one account (I think, I found I admin a few comms I'd forgotten even joining when I went to that page linked in the news post, so my memory isn't great), but I know people with many, and this would make a significant subset of, importantly, heavy paying users, quite happy.
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[personal profile] mm_writes 2014-06-11 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
2114. My God, I'd be...just 143 years old. LOL :)
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[staff profile] denise 2014-06-11 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)

I personally plan to upload my consciousness to the internet and continue working on Dreamwidth until I get bored. Computer programs don't have RSI problems :P

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[personal profile] mm_writes 2014-06-12 05:38 am (UTC)(link)
I'll upload mine with yours - I love recoding things. Especially without the hassle and discomfort of doing so from a squishy body propped up awkwardly in a desk chair. :)
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[personal profile] silverflight8 2014-06-10 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
+1
I think it is a lot of work for a small feature for a small subset of users. Sorry.
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[personal profile] mm_writes 2014-06-11 06:04 am (UTC)(link)
With that thought 100%.
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2014-06-10 04:08 pm (UTC)(link)
hmm, admin console, perhaps? Both as a way to extract the settings in a textual way, and to apply them? Though I know that DW is moving away from the admin console in general.
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[staff profile] denise 2014-06-10 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)

Huh, there's a thought.

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[personal profile] turlough 2014-06-10 05:28 pm (UTC)(link)
This is my "implemented with changes"
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[personal profile] qem_chibati 2014-06-10 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
+1, having a way to do it as the admin console would be my way of approaching it too.
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[personal profile] kaberett 2014-06-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no opinion as to whether it gets implemented this way or some other way.
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[personal profile] amadi 2014-06-11 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
+1 Though there's a move away from the console, people who RP are used to using it, to do mass encircling with new character journals, so it wouldn't be a steep learning curve.
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[personal profile] mm_writes 2014-06-11 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
If this is true (RPers are accustomed to using admin console so it brings them no extra pain to use it for one more thing) then yes. But otherwise no because a simple dropdown on Create Entry page != admin console. Can we take a poll geared toward RP users to find out what they want?

(will post this question as a top-level reply as well so the right people will see it)
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[personal profile] numisma 2014-06-12 08:01 am (UTC)(link)
+1

(Anonymous) 2014-06-10 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I only have one DW account, and I'm rarely even logged in to it, so this wouldn't affect me. But it seems like a sensible option to have if it can be done reasonably easily.
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[personal profile] mm_writes 2014-06-11 06:12 am (UTC)(link)
As amadi suggested RPers who want this feature are used to using the admin console so might not mind using it for this as well; I was wondering if maybe one of the official DW communities could poll everybody (or maybe at least RPers specifically) to see what the actual preference would be?

I'm currently at a No vote for this but would change to Yes with changes if admin console proves popular.
Edited (typo) 2014-06-11 08:49 (UTC)
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[personal profile] susanreads 2014-06-11 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like a good use for the admin console as suggested above. ... Is there a guide to the admin console anywhere?
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[staff profile] denise 2014-06-11 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)

There's a reference.

The thing that makes me hesitate is that we've done a lot of work to make it so there's nothing (regular non-site-admin-privileged) users need to do with the console that they can't do elsewhere.